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PAK not USA is behind the terror attacks; main culprit - December 3rd, 2008

Firstly, Saluting the SPIRIT of all those souls who have departed ensuring that there fellow citiens like us breath in comfort, only to condemn and discuss..

Esp. the Mumbai Police force, NSG Commandos, Black Cats, Marcos, all those national heroes.

Indian politicians and system might have been ineffective, but these officials weren’t. We not only have tolerated the terrorist acts of the past but let them altogether pass off, without trying to put an end to it.

All our energy is wasted in playing the blame game. The first thing is Compensation, which is more of a ceremonial thing. 3LACS-5LACS FOR DEATH & 50000 for Injury….then till the next attack.

That shows the spirit of the Terrorists, their devotion to their prescribed duty. Even if they are misguided or brain washed.

Had this attack not being once again on Mumbai and its crowns like Taj & Oberoi, the citizens, people, politicians would have thought of it as just another ordeal.. The way it was carried out. Had it being another bombblasts, all of us would have put it behind the very next day. Infact except for the innocent lives that have gone, there is every reason for the happening of this kind of bastardly acts.

There are countless number of these attacks in recent past, but where have all those Investigations reached, nowhere. Only blaming a new named Outfit, role of PAK is all that we do. Its become a part of life, but for once this all needs to be changed, Why shud we submit any proofs to Pak time and again, we shud throw it on the face of United Nations and tell them this is the action we are going to take. Its no greatness in blaming Pakistan alone atleast they show their resolve in patronizing terrorists and use their land.

When its crystal clear that there are militant groups, yet they are able to fool and goof the very USA. When its known that the terrorists insurmountable amount of hatred for them.

and that is where USA has to think and step in, show its true responsibility. If it really thinks so. More than Pakistan, whom we all blame for patronizing these terrorists and letting use its land for the growth & prosperity of Terror outfits, supplying them with all the needed logistics and inputs. From whom are they buying all these sophisticated weapons?

History shows us the double standards of USA, their approach to terrorism. The super power which wont let its citizen suffer in any way, provide medical facilities and use helicopters for the same, even it means for saving just a single Americans life, how could it tolerate when 4 of its soldier’s were killed by the militants in Pakistan, when they were proceeding into the region where the Terrorists thrive.

All Bush did was raised his voice and slammed Musharraf then..

But now when its established that US, UK, Israel citizens were the targets, US, UK are sending their teams to conduct investigations in Mumbai. So the terrorists have shown them, if they are not able to target US & UK, they will attack them elsewhere..

That is where the real responsibility lies with USA, just like Pakistan has breeded the terrorist organizations, USA has breeded Pakistan.

US govt. we don’t know what their interests are, have not acted against Pak in time. May be Pak is the largest buyer of their Weapons – something which made Japan do the Pearl Harbour, back then US had Industries supplying War Weapons n tools to the other nations at War, and it never Joined the same directly till Japan’s attack. So its their nature to be a Spectator. Infact its in best interest of America to have War between other nations, as they are the chief suppliers of the arms and ammunition. Dont know if thing have changed since then.

Everywhere else they will show their resolve, and when it comes to Pak and Israel – there’s a marked difference in their approach.

One may say, unable Indians putting the whole BLAME on USA. But Uncle Sam how u justify bombardings of Afghanistan, Iraq on mere suspicion, and the place u know where militants are being trained, where even the Pak Govt. doesn’t dare to go or has absolutely no control over, the Pak Afghan Border – Wajirsthan; of which u are quite aware than anyone else. Where does all your Supremacy go?
Its upto US-UK, you might stop your citizens from touring other nations for as much time.

So if this time (America in the form of) Obama does not act, its sure in the near future Osama will surely act.

US, UK might have put 9/11, and London Metro train blasts behind them, but nothing can save them from attacks of similar magnitudes if they don’t step in at the right time for serving greater interest and world peace. India is not worried about military action against Pak, infact it’s the responsibility of the world nations by and large not only India but is anyone sure with whom Paks nuclear weapons lie, the terrorist out there may have access to it or can easily overpower their military. That’s the real threat to the world. Sooner or later US will pay the price for the same..

US even went ahead and said not to derail the talk process between India-Pak, that’s there knave attitude.

Today Bush says sorry, for Intelligence failure, that made him attack Iraq, when it had no Weapons of Mass Destructions as such, that makes it quite evident about US maligned intentions.

but then again the question is what about the militant groups in PoK,

The way forward is United Nations (not the hand tool of US) but India, UK, US, Israel joint action against Pakistan, International Ultimatum of 15-20 days asking why military action should not be taken against it. Rather than submitting proofs and docs wasting time.

International Boycott of Pakistan, ya do believe that there are as many Innocents in Pakistan but cant help it, in greater interest of world peace and to bring an end to the Terrorism Industry of Pak, bombardings in those areas is essential. But that requires a credible resolution, of World leadership and no differentiation like US-UK-Indian Citizens and on the lines of what u profess in WTO.. World markets, global customers.

If that means rubbing of significant portion of Pak from the map, lets be it..
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Re: PAK not USA is behind the terror attacks; main culprit - December 3rd, 2008

I guess you drew a premature conclusion out there. No-one...I repeat no-one would ever try to prove a point by killing it's own citizens coz if the truth for once is uncovered; it will result in a political brawl that one could hardly imagine.
So redraw your conclusions dude.
   
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That is not what I meant in exact terms. U took it rather. Shud hav read thru.

It is not that USA attacked in Mumbai, but their role as a mute spectator. Acting as a guardian of Pak. More than any of us, USA has its military base in Pakistan. They are very much aware of the militant camps just like the Pakistan Govt. Infact the Pak Afghan border is the area where no one dares to step in. I am not expert on that but what I said is based on News reports from time to time. not of immediate period.

The militants are more powerful than their military. In no time they can dismantle Pak itself, thats why Pak Govt denies any role. If any one stops them they kill that Political leader. THey hav attacked Benazir, Musharraf, Imran Khan one and all. Whosoever tries to bring in change, they ridicule them.

And the same is widely reported by the media many a times. Wajirastan, they call it. Almost year ago US soldiers were killed, as they encroached that territory.
All that Bush did is raised his voice n slammed Musharraf and told him we will not tolerate n like.

But some reasons they don't react against Pakistan. That is their political compulsion. Had this same attack taken place in Israel or US itself killing their citizens, wudnt they have reacted at the very first instance. U also might have seen images of Osama n all passing thru those hilly areas, though they may be old footage, US spy satellites had captured the same, then there are those of Militant training footages..
So if they think these militants organisation in Pak has nothing to do with USA they are playing with fire.

Sooner or later these fundamentalists will attack in any part of the world, its only that India is a close as well as soft target, due to our impotent Political system.

Heard what Maharashtra Home Minister said " Mumbai is big city, and small incidents happen".
   
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That is not what I meant in exact terms. U took it rather. Shud hav read thru.

It is not that USA attacked in Mumbai, but their role as a mute spectator. Acting as a guardian of Pak. More than any of us, USA has its military base in Pakistan. They are very much aware of the militant camps just like the Pakistan Govt. Infact the Pak Afghan border is the area where no one dares to step in. I am not expert on that but what I said is based on News reports from time to time. not of immediate period.

The militants are more powerful than their military. In no time they can dismantle Pak itself, thats why Pak Govt denies any role. If any one stops them they kill that Political leader. THey hav attacked Benazir, Musharraf, Imran Khan one and all. Whosoever tries to bring in change, they ridicule them.

And the same is widely reported by the media many a times. Wajirastan, they call it. Almost year ago US soldiers were killed, as they encroached that territory.
All that Bush did is raised his voice n slammed Musharraf and told him we will not tolerate n like.

But some reasons they don't react against Pakistan. That is their political compulsion. Had this same attack taken place in Israel or US itself killing their citizens, wudnt they have reacted at the very first instance. U also might have seen images of Osama n all passing thru those hilly areas, though they may be old footage, US spy satellites had captured the same, then there are those of Militant training footages..
So if they think these militants organisation in Pak has nothing to do with USA they are playing with fire.

Sooner or later these fundamentalists will attack in any part of the world, its only that India is a close as well as soft target, due to our impotent Political system.

Heard what Maharashtra Home Minister said " Mumbai is big city, and small incidents happen".
   
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Its pure PAK brain behind this.............................................. .................................................. ..................................
   
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i dont understand this y r we discussing this it has been proved time ang again about pakistan
   
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