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Re: Education and success - Is there a correlation? - June 7th, 2008

hmm...
education an success are correlated
but we shud undstd they are not interdependent there are many eg like every1 knws it is not necessary to be educated to be successful so i wud like to comment in a short manner education is just an addition to ur success or a path which helps to get success quickly o
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Re: Education and success - Is there a correlation? - June 7th, 2008

Not sure I quite understand what though process is the base of the statement
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And, there are handful of people who are 'well educated' and successful as well.
If you look at the world's billions, people who head organizations as ceo's, directors, presidents and vps are highly educated.

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Theoretically, Success means 'Profitable Growth' which is higher than the average market growth rate.
That means a successful person should be earning more money than most of the people are earning in his field. And/Or his Goodwill should be higher than the people in his field (his name itself should be a 'Brand') ... preferably in a good way.
Considering that as your answer, do you mean to say that the millions who head multinational organisations at the vp, president, directors and ceos levels are not successful ? Assuming that they are successful, do you mean to say that education, learnings and the degree does not have a role to play in the process?


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If it is in field of sports - Sachin Tendulkar, Kapil dev, Steffi graph, Federer... i can take thousands of name... who cares about their education.. it is just their dedication and passion for what they do have made them successful.
Yes, so when you quote sportsmen as successful, a practical approach would mean their education would be the training they undergo. Also, out of the millions who aspire to take sports as a career option, how many achieve the same kind of fame?

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If it is field of Business - Jamsetji Tata, Dhirubhai Ambani, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs.. I can list many more .. they all were pioneer entrepreneurs.. They had vision.. they only want to be the BEST and nothing less than that. They never cared if they are less educated... but still they always have hunger for knowledge.
You're quoting people who created history in an era where education itself had little importance and a 10th degree was as good as graduation.

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if it field of science (pure science) - take any scientist - einstien, edison, ramanujan.... they got their Phds only after their inventions became famous.. and it was not other way round. I dont think they were extraordinary or had some super-natural power that we dont have.
Again think of the era you are referring to. Yes, they might have got their Phd's after their inventions, but how do you think they got to the invention? Do you say that they did not get themselves educated on the basic principles of science?

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If you think that the people who are at good position, in a good company and earning good salary are successful then I think you are aiming really low. This is what is difference between people like us and people like Ambani and bill gates. Their aims are very higher than we can think of.. and this is the main formula for their success. For them even sky is not the limit.
You are generalizing people and perceptions and you are entitled to your opinion though i would strongly disagree to it, knowing for a fact that getting to a position to head verticals of organisations takes a lifetime and it definately is a success in itself.


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And, regarding your last question, even I have the same question "what businesses are we taking into consideration ?"
If we are talking about all the businesses then everyone will agree that success and education are not related.
What everyone agrees to is left upto everyone. When considering businesses, the top positions go to highly educated and polished professionals. I am yet to see an uneducated baboon with no success record head a large organisation.

Is education related to success. Absolutely, the polished communication, inter personal skills and the tact that you gain in the process of education plays a vital role in shaping individuals and finding success.


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Re: Education and success - Is there a correlation? - June 7th, 2008

good u have worked hard got the quotes and allbut i meant dhirubhai ambani he was not that educated to support this i have an article written by agood authour
A large number of very successful people in this world came from less-than perfect childhoods, and many were not good students (or were not traditionally educated).

So, what makes people successful?

1) They do not define who they are by their problems. Successful people define themselves by who they believe themselves to be. That’s why someone who doesn’t seem like she’s “all that” can do very well, while someone who is obviously talented can bomb. It’s all about how we perceive ourselves. You’ll have a hard time being successful if you continue to see yourself as stupid or uneducated. In other words, you have to believe in yourself before anyone else will.

2) Successful people have goals. What are your goals? Even if you have a Harvard degree, if you have no goals, it will be hard to find success.

3) Successful people keep on going. No matter what. You don’t have a degree, or knowledge, or ability? Keep going anyway. Don’t let that stop you. Keep learning, getting stronger, understanding yourself and your world.

4) Success does not get handed to you on a silver platter. Success doesn’t come from the outside, it comes from the inside. If that is true, then it doesn’t matter where you went to school. You’re out of school now, if you want to be successful and satisfied in your life, that’s your responsibility that you have to take seriously. Waiting for someone or something to give it to you will be a lifelong wait.

5) Lastly, successful people don’t whine. Seriously. Successful people don’t complain, blame people or things, or otherwise put negative energy out into the universe. If you want to be successful, you have to act successful. Whining about how you’re not smart or didn’t have a good enough education will only convince people that’s true and keep you in a constant state of wondering when you’ll be successful.

Very, very few people who are successful as adults will tell you that their young years were full of nothing but win after win. Successful people generally have gone through many struggles, and it’s how they pick their behinds up, brush themselves off, and start over, again and again, that makes them successful.

Given that, so long as you are alive, you always have the opportunity to have a successful adult life. It’s up to you.


the best eg is willam gates
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Re: Education and success - Is there a correlation? - June 8th, 2008

A GOOD topic started. YA surelt both have huge correlation...
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Re: Education and success - Is there a correlation? - June 8th, 2008

no i dnt think..education n success are corelated ..
as first example dat comes to my mind is of d cricketer..SACHIN TENDULKAR...
he is nt so educated....bt more successful n famous than a educated person
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Re: Education and success - Is there a correlation? - June 9th, 2008

Again, i would like to reiterate - if Education is just a degree Certificate then there is no relation between Education and Success.
But if Education is a knowledge gained by experience, practice or by any other means... then ofcourse i think this is very much necessary for success.

For those of you who think that a Degree certificate and success is related Just some basic questions to draw the correlation -
Are all educated people successful ??
OR
Are all successful people Educated???
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Re: Education and success - Is there a correlation? - June 10th, 2008

in stock markets also many uneducated people succeeds in making lots of profits but the risk involved there is at peak. pressure is always there on them. but people educated tries to do fundamental and technical analysis to reduce such risks involved.

Similarly, by getting educated and continuously learning we r trying to reduce such risks to minimse the distance between us and success.

in addition u may only give a few example (handful) of persons not educated and still succeeded while lakhs of example can be given on people educated and successful.
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Re: Education and success - Is there a correlation? - June 12th, 2008

no they are not correlated but it does helps
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Re: Education and success - Is there a correlation? - June 13th, 2008

yes thr is cz both are ointerrelated....
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Re: Education and success - Is there a correlation? - June 13th, 2008

in d current world without education thr is no successs......
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