Confessions of a Porn Star Article

[vishal_1986]

Confessions of a Porn Star - Sahara Knite
Sunday, 30 April 2006
“I am better than girls who pretend to be sweet and docile and live secret lives of sin. Being a porn star doesn’t mean I sleep around in my personal life,” Sahara Knite, Indian girl and current shining star of British adult industry, tells Nona Walia in an exclusive interview from London" TIMES NEWS NETWORK
I know, you’ve already made up your mind about me even before you begin reading what I have to say. I’m a porn star.
That it self stereotypes me as a bad girl. Does having sex in front of the camera for professional reasons mean I can’t be a nice human being and lead a normal personal life? True. Being a porn star brings imbalances in your life and relationships, especially with your family.
I’m an Indian Muslim girl from Gujarat. My parents moved to London in the ‘60s. My family is very conservative, but I grew up as a rebel. But, l let me tell you, what I do for a living doesn’t dictate who I am. I get hate mails by the dozen, everyday people call me to say: they want to kill me or they’ll shoot me. But I’m not ashamed of myself. I’ve been working in the adult industry for two years now and I love what I do. I don’t hide under false pretences.
If you think porn stars are exploited, you’re wrong. We’re here by our free will. We’re paid extremely well. I have to work extremely hard for the money I earn. I speak my mind freely; I’ve done an article for Sun and a documentary for Channel 4 on my life. I’ve just finished an interview with Men’s Vogue and a photo shoot for Mayfair magazine. Everybody wants an interview with me. They want to know the darker side of my life.
I’m getting invited to top talk shows on television and radio. I can say that in the cult of global celebrities, porn stars are the latest addition. We’re suddenly in the spotlight, writing books and advising people on how to make love like a porn star. Suddenly, there’s unexpected acceptance about our work.
No, I never had a moralistic debate about whether I should be a porn star or not. I needed the extra money, so I went ahead and did the movies. So far, I’ve done about 70 porn movies.
Just before joining the adult entertainment industry, I was a model and worked for French Connection. I’ve had a very conservative upbringing. I couldn’t even meet boys or talk to them when I was growing up. I wasn’t allowed to go for parties either. During my teenage years, I was crazy about fashion. I dreamt of wearing the sexiest outfits by world-famous designers.
Now, I think working for porn movies is exciting. I’m an actress, there’s somebody who does my make-up, hair and I’m ready for action. While shooting, I often think of shopping, fixing my tap at home or what I’ll have for dinner... Most porn actresses are educated, intelligent women, and you can’t abuse us just because of what we do.
I don’t drink or smoke, and I don’t harm anyone. I don’t do drugs and I didn’t get abused when I was growing up. I’m a normal girl. I’m not a hypocrite. When I was working for French Connection, I was wearing hijab... I tried to be religious. I accept that I’m a Muslim. There aren’t many Asian Indian women like me, but I’m not an object, I have feelings. I believe sex isn’t bad, it can’t be suppressed. Looking the other way doesn’t mean people won’t have sex or will stop watching porn.
In London, Asian men typically will watch porn at home, but won’t accept a porn star for a girlfriend! An Indian being a porn star gets extreme reactions. That’s the reason I don’t have a boyfriend. I’m an open and different girl, and that’s something men don’t like. Being a porn star doesn’t mean I’m a prostitute, I don’t sleep around in my personal life. I’m better than other girls like me, who pretend to be sweet and docile and live secret lives of sin. But most men can’t believe that. I’d rather date someone who sees me as a person and not just a body. That’s the reason I’m always honest about my profession with men I meet.
Do I want to get married? Of course! Let’s say, if a guy falls in love with me and wants marriage, I won’t resist it. I’m not consciously trying to bring disgrace to my family. Initially, I didn’t tell my parents about my work. One day, my cousin was watching Babestation, the soft porn channel in the UK, and happened to see me. His wife informed my parents. Today, my mother and brother don’t talk to me. My father calls up once a month to find out if I’m okay. Anyway, I’ve stopped caring about what anyone will say or think. If parents could accept the choices their kids made, there would be fewer cases of depression, suicides and honour killings in Britain.
I’m 31 now, I want to make money for four years and then direct some porn movies. At the end of the day, being a porn star isn’t glamorous, it’s just a job done. Initially, I would think, ‘Gawd! I can’t do this’. But that’s the initial hiccup. After that, you don’t think too much. Sometimes I have to work with men I don’t like. Then, I just concentrate on their feet or hands and mentally switch off.
I can understand why people would want to kill me. Asians would have certain expectations from me. But I want to assure them that I’m proud to be an Indian. I’m religious, and I love going home to India every two years. Being a porn star doesn’t make me less of a human being, daughter or friend. These are some of my honest confessions. I’m not hurting anyone. Is it fair to target me just because I’m a porn star?”
Courtesy ---Times of India



wht is ur take on this....

[gaurav200x]

I believe the person spoke from her heart....... If doing porn is a sin, then so should be watching it. I think it is just another profession and the people indulged in it should be treated as humans rather than looking them with disgraceful eyes. As long as they're not being exploited and doing it under some pressure, i believe there is nothing wrong with them.

[kartik]

Oh Come on.

She is just inspiring people to become a porn star.

Crunched for money ? Family is conservative ? Be a rebel .. Shed your clothes, become a porn star.

Just imagine the number of girls who would get inspired by her and take up that " profession "

Money is not everything, family responsibilities are also important.

Did anyone of you see ' kalyug ' the movie ?? Remember how it ends ??

Well, hope her story doesnt end the same way .

[vengabeats]

Being a porn star doesn’t mean I’m a prostitute,
working in 70 porn movies and she is sayin tht she is not a prostitute....WTF :SugarwareZ-022:


I don’t drink or smoke, and I don’t harm anyone. I don’t do drugs
hehehe....she is not doing ne favour on us by not drinking:bump:


direct some porn movies
means she wants more and more people entering in the Porn line :mad2:

[kartik]

COME ON ...

I mean COME ON ..

The above article is Courtesy ---Times of India

I have been dying to get some media exposure for www.ManagementParadise.com (http://www.ManagementParadise.com) ( the site that gets millions of hits a month ) so that more people know about it... and what do I see in TOI ... some article about a porn star .....

This is just hillarious.

[MAXDROIT]

can i get the website address of the SAHARA KNITE........

need to chck ou tbefore givin any comment..........u knwo wht i mean .....

[kartik]

can i get the website address of the SAHARA KNITE........

need to chck ou tbefore givin any comment..........u knwo wht i mean .....


Yeah, we know what you mean , you pervert ..

Grow up man .

[gaurav200x]

i dont think she is inspiring. Well doing porn isnt so easy and u need much more than inspiration to do that. I feel that the essence of the article is to treat them as humans. Porn stars are just actors and most of them dont enjoy it and they do it just for money. I saw a movie "the guru" and the fact was highlighted very nicely in it.

Think it this way. Ok, u wanna call them prostitutes. Fine! but arent prostitues human beings. Should they be looked upon by demeaning eyes. I say NO

I feel that, in that case, the people who make porn and those who watch it as equally guilty... what say?

At the end of the day, porn stars are also people doing what their business. Atleast they dont kill or loot anyone to make money. It is their body they're using to make money (everyone does). Its just they use their body differently.

[kartik]

Should they be looked upon by demeaning eyes. I say NO

I say yes, because if you dont, more and more people will join this "business" .

There are many ways of earning money and to sell your body for it as a sex weapon is the easiest way out.

Are they not human beings ?? yes they are ... but should you support the way they earn ? Do you want this so called business to flourish and be so usual such that your next door neighbour is a porn star ??

People smoke, people drink, then why is there a ban on smoking? They are not harming anyone else.

People try to commit suicides, then why is attempt to suicide a crime ?

The only need to treat them with deaming eyes is that the next generation does not think of prostitution as " Kewl " way of making money.

[gaurav200x]

Just want to be brief, so i would take it one by one and tell u

I say yes, because if you dont, more and more people will join this "business" .
Dont think so. Even if i say yes, even if i say that i dont look them with demeaning eyes, it takes more than inspiration to take ur clothes off in front of the camera and let the whole world watch it.



There are many ways of earning money and to sell your body for it as a sex weapon is the easiest way out.

Are they not human beings ?? yes they are ... but should you support the way they earn ? Do you want this so called business to flourish and be so usual such that your next door neighbour is a porn star ??

I dont say that it is the good way. Never have i said that others should join profession. I just say that they're human and they shouldnt be looked down upon. Offcourse, i feel that this is just another business and making a hull bullo out of it is not required.



People smoke, people drink, then why is there a ban on smoking? They are not harming anyone else.

People try to commit suicides, then why is attempt to suicide a crime ?

The only need to treat them with deaming eyes is that the next generation does not think of prostitution as " Kewl " way of making money.

The thing is that u consider them as prostitutes and i dont, although both earn their money through sex. They dont hide their faces in 4 walls and have sex, rather do it openly. I am not supporting them, just pointing out the differences. They're not forced to do sex, rather that they do it out of their own free will. They take adequate preventive measures to prevent the spread of diseases, which is seldom the case in prostituion.

Anyway, my point is limited to the fact that they should be treated as human beings. Being a porn star doesnt mean unholy or dirty.

p.s. u're entitled to ur opinion, but this is mine.

[kartik]

Offcourse, i feel that this is just another business and making a hull bullo out of it is not required.

It is a business which you wouldnt want any of your close friends to be involved in.

The thing is that u consider them as prostitutes and i dont, although both earn their money through sex. They dont hide their faces in 4 walls and have sex, rather do it openly. I am not supporting them, just pointing out the differences. They're not forced to do sex, rather that they do it out of their own free will. They take adequate preventive measures to prevent the spread of diseases, which is seldom the case in prostituion.

Anyway, my point is limited to the fact that they should be treated as human beings. Being a porn star doesnt mean unholy or dirty.

Doesnt matter if they hide their faces or not. When you say you wouldnt want this business to flourish, you are implying that you dont like it.

You are absolutely entitled to your opinion, just that when you justify a prostitute or a porn star, you justify prostitution or the so called business they are into.

[karma]

ok.. gaurav are you ready to marry her.. or even have her as a girlfriend and take her home to meet your parents.... leave it be... stop showing off tht u re a social wrker with open mind... ...




well great going gaurav go ahead... and promote it (the business)

other thing.. well they are humans but obvious...... but the work they do will always be frowned upon........ you.. oops i mean we may be watching those movies but we wont say tht in the open bcos we respect our values and ethics.... some things are better left alone.... and by the way prostitution is one of the oldest known professions... werver there are men there will be some women to take profit from a mans natural craving....... they do this business bcos they have their own reasons to do it and justify...i can say... lack of ethics and values......... not properly brought up.. etc etc etc......

Gaurav is inspired by THE GURU.... i think or some kinda good kida

[gaurav200x]

I knew that one of u would put up this remark.
ok.. gaurav are you ready to marry her.. or even have her as a girlfriend and take her home to meet your parents.... leave it be... stop showing off tht u re a social wrker with open mind... ...

Use ur brains man. I am not trying to "show off" anything here. Secondly, just bcoz i consider them as humans doesnt mean i want to marry them or befriend them, which again doesnt mean that i loathe them. If u find it hard to understand, read it once again.




well great going gaurav go ahead... and promote it (the business)


You should know what to post before talking like a jacka**. When am i promoting the business?


other thing.. well they are humans but obvious...... but the work they do will always be frowned upon........ you.. oops i mean we may be watching those movies but we wont say tht in the open bcos we respect our values and ethics.... some things are better left alone.... and by the way prostitution is one of the oldest known professions... werver there are men there will be some women to take profit from a mans natural craving....... they do this business bcos they have their own reasons to do it and justify...i can say... lack of ethics and values......... not properly brought up.. etc etc etc......

Gaurav is inspired by THE GURU.... i think or some kinda good kida

well kid, why dont u want to watch the movies in open? Why dont sit with ur mom and pop and grandma and grandpa and watch it in open? You can watch a lady having sexual intercourse in private and then u talk of ethics? If u are so full of ethics, then why hide it? And then u call the people who do it and come out boldly as bad? This is the height of hypocriticism.

Your dialogue just smells of age old crap that women alsways take advatage of mens' sexual instinct. Bullshit.

So instead of digressing off from the topic, think and write.

KARTIK -


When you say you wouldnt want this business to flourish, you are implying that you dont like it.


Kartik, i have got nothing to do with their business. Let me re-phrase here the points once again to avoid any confusion.

a) Porn actors are human being and one should not look down upon with disgust.

b) Doing porn and prostituion are two different things. Doing it secrectly is prostitution. Why should porn stars be pin pointed? Just because they use their body to highlight sex, doesnt mean they're inferior. Think of all the sex-education tapes. You wouldnt call them as bad, would u? It all depends on the way u perceive things.

Everybody can have sex once they're married. and if that is not bad , then why should u hold a person contemptous if he/she wants to display it and the person seeing it, has no objections.

They never say that, come and everybody join it. People join it of their own will.

Well, i have said what i wanted to say.




Final word for Karma. When the topic is volatile, NEVER pin point a finger on anyone or it would lead a good debate into accusations and brick battering.

[karma]

I knew that one of u would put up this remark.


Use ur brains man. I am not trying to "show off" anything here. Secondly, just bcoz i consider them as humans doesnt mean i want to marry them or befriend them, which again doesnt mean that i loathe them. If u find it hard to understand, read it once again.



You should know what to post before talking like a jacka**. When am i promoting the business?



well kid, why dont u want to watch the movies in open? Why dont sit with ur mom and pop and grandma and grandpa and watch it in open? You can watch a lady having sexual intercourse in private and then u talk of ethics? If u are so full of ethics, then why hide it? And then u call the people who do it and come out boldly as bad? This is the height of hypocriticism.

Your dialogue just smells of age old crap that women alsways take advatage of mens' sexual instinct. Bullshit.




Final word for Karma. When the topic is volatile, NEVER pin point a finger on anyone or it would lead a good debate into accusations and brick battering.



Holy mother of God... some people don't understand... read carefully dumba**


I dont say that it is the good way. Never have i said that others should join profession. I just say that they're human and they shouldnt be looked down upon. Offcourse, i feel that this is just another business and making a hull bullo out of it is not required.

Just another business...... if you consider it just another business don't u think tht is a sort of way to justify the point of joinin tht business..... understand the sentence.....

Use ur brains man. I am not trying to "show off" anything here. Secondly, just bcoz i consider them as humans doesnt mean i want to marry them or befriend them, which again doesnt mean that i loathe them. If u find it hard to understand, read it once again.

I don't loathe them but i would never want myself to be seen with them..... we live in a society dumb...... you don't want your relatives or your parents to see you with a person who indulges in such a business frankly.... they are human beings. u dnt want to marry her u dnt want to make her a girlfriend ok fine i dnt care.. wud there be a problem if u make her your friend.... think abt tht kid...


well kid, why dont u want to watch the movies in open? Why dont sit with ur mom and pop and grandma and grandpa and watch it in open? You can watch a lady having sexual intercourse in private and then u talk of ethics? If u are so full of ethics, then why hide it? And then u call the people who do it and come out boldly as bad? This is the height of hypocriticism.

yea right do it yourself and can u watch it with ur mom or sister perhaps ohh great one... :))... i mentioned tht we may be watching those movies but as we respect our culture and ethics values watever.... we dnt go out saying tht open.....


considering todays youth they smoke , drink etc but they dnt let their parents know abt it... cos they dont want to show disrespect as it our culture....


Your dialogue just smells of age old crap that women alsways take advatage of mens' sexual instinct. Bullshit.

So instead of digressing off from the topic, think and write.


Buddy tht is an age old fact.................... and it will always be

Last word for Mr. Gaurav..

Before saying anything.. THINK tht is it applicable to you.... keep urself in both the positions.... and if u say tht i shud think what a pornstar thinks... well i wud say... they want fame.. and can goto heights.... indians wud rather refrain ( i kno shes an indian.. but a uk born) cos we hav our culture and values to be proud of.. not like westerners .. we may take care of a porn star by helping her if she needs help but wud never support their profession...... ..



GAME ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kartik]

b) Doing porn and prostituion are two different things. Doing it secrectly is prostitution. Why should porn stars be pin pointed? Just because they use their body to highlight sex, doesnt mean they're inferior. Think of all the sex-education tapes. You wouldnt call them as bad, would u? It all depends on the way u perceive things.

Everybody can have sex once they're married. and if that is not bad , then why should u hold a person contemptous if he/she wants to display it and the person seeing it, has no objections

Oh Come on... First of all, prostitutes and porn stars belong to the same category.. they indulge in the same act and the opinion that prostitutes are looked down just because they do things closed doors is just biased.

What do you refer to when you mean they are human beings and should be treated equally? You mean you should befriend them? Parents should let their children get exposed to free sex thinking ? ( rather paid sex ).

Marriage is different. You wouldnt even moderately tolerate your wife being a little extra friendly to someone, then why would you defend the act of prostitution? Sex is good right?

You really need to see the movie " KALYUG " , you will have a clearer picture.

[gaurav200x]

Holy mother of God... some people don't understand... read carefully dumba**



Just another business...... if you consider it just another business don't u think tht is a sort of way to justify the point of joinin tht business..... understand the sentence.....



I don't loathe them but i would never want myself to be seen with them..... we live in a society dumb...... you don't want your relatives or your parents to see you with a person who indulges in such a business frankly.... they are human beings. u dnt want to marry her u dnt want to make her a girlfriend ok fine i dnt care.. wud there be a problem if u make her your friend.... think abt tht kid...




yea right do it yourself and can u watch it with ur mom or sister perhaps ohh great one... :))... i mentioned tht we may be watching those movies but as we respect our culture and ethics values watever.... we dnt go out saying tht open.....


considering todays youth they smoke , drink etc but they dnt let their parents know abt it... cos they dont want to show disrespect as it our culture....



Buddy tht is an age old fact.................... and it will always be

Last word for Mr. Gaurav..

Before saying anything.. THINK tht is it applicable to you.... keep urself in both the positions.... and if u say tht i shud think what a pornstar thinks... well i wud say... they want fame.. and can goto heights.... indians wud rather refrain ( i kno shes an indian.. but a uk born) cos we hav our culture and values to be proud of.. not like westerners .. we may take care of a porn star by helping her if she needs help but wud never support their profession...... ..



GAME ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
blah blah blah !!
Dont mind it karma, but ur post is full of childish nonsense.

You talk of high values and culture and again u even justify one's watching of porn.

I dont have time to waste on ur ignorance.


considering todays youth they smoke , drink etc but they dnt let their parents know abt it... cos they dont want to show disrespect as it our culture....

[gaurav200x]

Oh Come on... First of all, prostitutes and porn stars belong to the same category.. they indulge in the same act and the opinion that prostitutes are looked down just because they do things closed doors is just biased.
depends on how u see it. I say that it is not. Prostitution is different.


What do you refer to when you mean they are human beings and should be treated equally? You mean you should befriend them? Parents should let their children get exposed to free sex thinking ? ( rather paid sex ). Why should everything be made in relations. I treat them as humans. I would not give them a frosty nose, or look at them with disgust or if they would shake hands with me, i would run away. Befriending them or marrying them depends totally upon the individual's wish and should not be seen as a criteria.


Marriage is different. You wouldnt even moderately tolerate your wife being a little extra friendly to someone, then why would you defend the act of prostitution? Sex is good right?

You really need to see the movie " KALYUG " , you will have a clearer picture. Again i am NOT NOT and a final NOT defending prostitution. first of all, this is not prostituion and secondly, I dont say lady go and have sex on the screen. Its ur will. Do it if u have the guts. I have no problem with it. I am not supporting it nor opposing it. Everyone has the right to their own body and they can use it anyway they like.


p.s. If u have so much of a problem, ask the people to stop watching porn, then automatically, the porn stars would be out of business. But we wont pin point them. Porn stars work because there is a demand for porn. It is easy to pin point against the easier. Same goes for prostitution. We would pin point a woman for being a prostitute when the people who visit them are let scot free and Karma justifies it as an age old tradition. Bah! humbug

[kartik]

I know you are fighting against time to reply on MP..

Jus wana point out


p.s. If u have so much of a problem, ask the people to stop watching porn, then automatically, the porn stars would be out of business. But we wont pin point them. Porn stars work because there is a demand for porn. It is easy to pin point against the easier. Same goes for prostitution. We would pin point a woman for being a prostitute when the people who visit them are let scot free and Karma justifies it as an age old tradition. Bah! humbug


Same goes with alchol , smokes, drugs... You wouldnt advocate farming of cocaine, manali cream etc would you ? Ask everyone to stop doing drugs, the production will stop.. this is not the case.. the only way to stop people from consuming drugs is to stop production and not the other way round :)

[gaurav200x]

I know you are fighting against time to reply on MP..

Jus wana point out



Same goes with alchol , smokes, drugs... You wouldnt advocate farming of cocaine, manali cream etc would you ? Ask everyone to stop doing drugs, the production will stop.. this is not the case.. the only way to stop people from consuming drugs is to stop production and not the other way round :)
As a final note........ I still stand by my neutral opinion.

The "ps" i wrote is for those people who are against it. Yes, it is easier if we can ban the farming of cocaine..... then it can stop. But does it mean that the people who do the farming are bad? Most of the people who consume such products (porn included) are literate people. They know whats good for them and whats bad. Still they do it.

Why? Any answer?

That's why u cant hold the person who does the farming as bad.

[kartik]

As a final note........ I still stand by my neutral opinion.

The "ps" i wrote is for those people who are against it. Yes, it is easier if we can ban the farming of cocaine..... then it can stop. But does it mean that the people who do the farming are bad? Most of the people who consume such products (porn included) are literate people. They know whats good for them and whats bad. Still they do it.

Why? Any answer?

That's why u cant hold the person who does the farming as bad.

This is hillarious. You just extended your support to drug abuse .

You might as well say killing is legal ;)

[gaurav200x]

This is hillarious. You just extended your support to drug abuse .

You might as well say killing is legal ;)
Seems like u forgot to read the post....... :p

I am not extnding my support...... but saying that u cant blame a person for the kind of occupation he/she is doing. Indian Tobacco Company should be banned for making tobacco...... but the people who chew it, are literate people fully knowing the effects.

Too much digressing..... killing, cocaine and etc etc..... werent we talking about porn stars. I still stand by my point. Any other valid points, anyone?

[karma]

blah blah blah !!
Dont mind it karma, but ur post is full of childish nonsense.

You talk of high values and culture and again u even justify one's watching of porn.

I dont have time to waste on ur ignorance.

Ohh look whos being ignorant...... i have made my point on high values and culture......


If u have so much of a problem, ask the people to stop watching porn, then automatically, the porn stars would be out of business. But we wont pin point them. Porn stars work because there is a demand for porn. It is easy to pin point against the easier. Same goes for prostitution. We would pin point a woman for being a prostitute when the people who visit them are let scot free and Karma justifies it as an age old tradition. Bah! humbug

yea a age old tradition .... hey bird brain its an oldest known profession.....
consumption and production are interrelated you cannot deny the fact.. no production= no consumption
no consumption= no production tht is a fact.....


Why should everything be made in relations. I treat them as humans. I would not give them a frosty nose, or look at them with disgust or if they would shake hands with me, i would run away. Befriending them or marrying them depends totally upon the individual's wish and should not be seen as a criteria.

The individual's wish gets influenced by wat was the past and the present of tht person.... we all treat them as humans.... but we would consider every aspect.. when we meet a person we take into account every aspect of tht persons life... upto how much we know....

I would not give them a frosty nose, or look at them with disgust or if they would shake hands with me, i would run away

well i too won't run away..... they will always be treated as humans.... but you shud not deny the fact tht u won't accept them as a closest friend or any other realtion.... your viewpoint would always be influenced....... by goin with this point what would u consider a killer or a gangster........ they are afterall humans.... but u wud deny any relation with such a person.. because what they do is not acceptable... in the society.... likewise being a pornstar or a prostitute u won't be accepted in the society... tht is the way....

Gaurav whenever you want to argue.. THINK abt the implications..

if u say tht u are just making a point tht they shud be treated as humans.. well thts fair... but their profession would always be looked upon in disgust....

Prostitutes do behind close doors and pornstars don't tht is the only difference... if u give them money they would be willing to sleep with anyone... and including you :pound: wherever you wish and how you wish.... Tht lady is just doing some PR tths it....... why are we arguing on tht..... she wants some good business.....

Again i am NOT NOT and a final NOT defending prostitution. first of all, this is not prostituion and secondly, I dont say lady go and have sex on the screen. Its ur will. Do it if u have the guts. I have no problem with it. I am not supporting it nor opposing it. Everyone has the right to their own body and they can use it anyway they like.

you are ok if someone has the guts !!! cool youre wife or whomever u know wud be very glad to hear this :))

my point here is not against you.. i point out.... do you accept this if someone close to you does this.. frankly !!! no point arguing .... if u really do... and if u don't well i made my point...

and please please... dnt argue insensibly. and if u cant argue dnt completely rubbish wat others have said...... I still say gaurav THINK............ My direct asault is on the profession..... not the person. watever i have said wud be childish to sum1 who cant argue on it further.. but i base my arguements on facts.....

[karma]

blah blah blah !!
Dont mind it karma, but ur post is full of childish nonsense.

You talk of high values and culture and again u even justify one's watching of porn.

I dont have time to waste on ur ignorance.

Ohh look whos being ignorant...... i have made my point on high values and culture......


If u have so much of a problem, ask the people to stop watching porn, then automatically, the porn stars would be out of business. But we wont pin point them. Porn stars work because there is a demand for porn. It is easy to pin point against the easier. Same goes for prostitution. We would pin point a woman for being a prostitute when the people who visit them are let scot free and Karma justifies it as an age old tradition. Bah! humbug

yea a age old tradition .... hey bird brain its an oldest known profession.....
consumption and production are interrelated you cannot deny the fact.. no production= no consumption
no consumption= no production tht is a fact.....


Why should everything be made in relations. I treat them as humans. I would not give them a frosty nose, or look at them with disgust or if they would shake hands with me, i would run away. Befriending them or marrying them depends totally upon the individual's wish and should not be seen as a criteria.

The individual's wish gets influenced by wat was the past and the present of tht person.... we all treat them as humans.... but we would consider every aspect.. when we meet a person we take into account every aspect of tht persons life... upto how much we know....

I would not give them a frosty nose, or look at them with disgust or if they would shake hands with me, i would run away

well i too won't run away..... they will always be treated as humans.... but you shud not deny the fact tht u won't accept them as a closest friend or any other realtion.... your viewpoint would always be influenced....... by goin with this point what would u consider a killer or a gangster........ they are afterall humans.... but u wud deny any relation with such a person.. because what they do is not acceptable... in the society.... likewise being a pornstar or a prostitute u won't be accepted in the society... tht is the way....

Gaurav whenever you want to argue.. THINK abt the implications..

if u say tht u are just making a point tht they shud be treated as humans.. well thts fair... but their profession would always be looked upon in disgust....

Prostitutes do behind close doors and pornstars don't tht is the only difference... if u give them money they would be willing to sleep with anyone... and including you :pound: wherever you wish and how you wish.... Tht lady is just doing some PR tths it....... why are we arguing on tht..... she wants some good business.....

Again i am NOT NOT and a final NOT defending prostitution. first of all, this is not prostituion and secondly, I dont say lady go and have sex on the screen. Its ur will. Do it if u have the guts. I have no problem with it. I am not supporting it nor opposing it. Everyone has the right to their own body and they can use it anyway they like.

you are ok if someone has the guts !!! cool youre wife or whomever u know wud be very glad to hear this :))

my point here is not against you.. i point out.... do you accept this if someone close to you does this.. frankly !!! no point arguing .... if u really do... and if u don't well i made my point...

and please please... dnt argue insensibly. and if u cant argue dnt completely rubbish wat others have said...... I still say gaurav THINK............ My direct asault is on the profession..... not the person. watever i have said wud be childish to sum1 who cant argue on it further.. but i base my arguements on facts.....

[gaurav200x]

Ohh look whos being ignorant...... i have made my point on high values and culture......




yea a age old tradition .... hey bird brain its an oldest known profession.....
consumption and production are interrelated you cannot deny the fact.. no production= no consumption
no consumption= no production tht is a fact.....




The individual's wish gets influenced by wat was the past and the present of tht person.... we all treat them as humans.... but we would consider every aspect.. when we meet a person we take into account every aspect of tht persons life... upto how much we know....

I would not give them a frosty nose, or look at them with disgust or if they would shake hands with me, i would run away

well i too won't run away..... they will always be treated as humans.... but you shud not deny the fact tht u won't accept them as a closest friend or any other realtion.... your viewpoint would always be influenced....... by goin with this point what would u consider a killer or a gangster........ they are afterall humans.... but u wud deny any relation with such a person.. because what they do is not acceptable... in the society.... likewise being a pornstar or a prostitute u won't be accepted in the society... tht is the way....

Gaurav whenever you want to argue.. THINK abt the implications..

if u say tht u are just making a point tht they shud be treated as humans.. well thts fair... but their profession would always be looked upon in disgust....

Prostitutes do behind close doors and pornstars don't tht is the only difference... if u give them money they would be willing to sleep with anyone... and including you :pound: wherever you wish and how you wish.... Tht lady is just doing some PR tths it....... why are we arguing on tht..... she wants some good business.....



you are ok if someone has the guts !!! cool youre wife or whomever u know wud be very glad to hear this :))

my point here is not against you.. i point out.... do you accept this if someone close to you does this.. frankly !!! no point arguing .... if u really do... and if u don't well i made my point...

and please please... dnt argue insensibly. and if u cant argue dnt completely rubbish wat others have said...... I still say gaurav THINK............ My direct asault is on the profession..... not the person. watever i have said wud be childish to sum1 who cant argue on it further.. but i base my arguements on facts.....

Ok karma, my final post on this section. Think this hard, before torturing ur dumb brains.

1) Stop pointing out my wife, my girl friend.... my my my.... If are illitrate, i cant help it. But i have clearly pointed out that personal relations are not a criteria here to judge. I maybe to willing to accept a porn star as my wife, i may not be. It doesnt alter anything. At the end, they're just people.

As i said before, it is their consciousness that lets them do it and if they're fine with it, it is none of our business to point out.

2) Even i can shower truck loads of profanities on u.... but i dont want u to get banned from this forum (u're already on 100 warning). So learn to mind ur language.

3) If we go by age old traditions, yes it is bad.... but things change. and what kind of nut are u to compare them with killers? Do they harm anyone? Do they kill? Do they loot?

again, to help ur brains, let me remind u that i am NOT supporting their business, rather their persona.

Rest all too many blahs...... learn to put up ur debate properly, before making a joke of urself around here. If u're still not satisfied, read my posts again and formulate ur answers accordingly.

No point in wasting my time by repeating the things again and again, which i have already answered.

and if u still do, u r either too dumb or just too ignorant to understand..... that i leave it to u.

PERIOD.

[karma]

Ok karma, my final post on this section. Think this hard, before torturing ur dumb brains.

1) Stop pointing out my wife, my girl friend.... my my my.... If are illitrate, i cant help it. But i have clearly pointed out that personal relations are not a criteria here to judge. I maybe to willing to accept a porn star as my wife, i may not be. It doesnt alter anything. At the end, they're just people.

As i said before, it is their consciousness that lets them do it and if they're fine with it, it is none of our business to point out.

2) Even i can shower truck loads of profanities on u.... but i dont want u to get banned from this forum (u're already on 100 warning). So learn to mind ur language.

3) If we go by age old traditions, yes it is bad.... but things change. and what kind of nut are u to compare them with killers? Do they harm anyone? Do they kill? Do they loot?

again, to help ur brains, let me remind u that i am NOT supporting their business, rather their persona.

Rest all too many blahs...... learn to put up ur debate properly, before making a joke of urself around here. If u're still not satisfied, read my posts again and formulate ur answers accordingly.

No point in wasting my time by repeating the things again and again, which i have already answered.

and if u still do, u r either too dumb or just too ignorant to understand..... that i leave it to u.

PERIOD.

1) i am not pointing to ur wife or watever.... i dnt care.... i am just making a point.... wud u allow neone close to you to sell their body for money ! if yes ure one of the worsts people i got to know abt...

2) are you always so stupid....... and btw look whos talking 'mind your language'.... who started it in the first place ( look before you leap).... tht warning meter is 100% not bcos of using profanity.. it will go away........ neways i dnt care.. when i want to make a point i will make it.. its tit for tat.....

3) whos talking abt age old traditions here...... hit ur brain hard with a baseball bat..... its just about society and profession..... not the person.... and i am not comparing it with killers or gangsters watever..... i am just saying some professions will always be looked upon with disgust......

Atleast they dont kill or loot anyone to make money. It is their body they're using to make money (everyone does). Its just they use their body differently.

first of all you justify why they sell their body... 2nd.. u say they are just doing a business... 'Its just they use their body differently'...

cant u intrepret this into support.... tht it is acceptable to be pornstar....


I said this now and before.. i am not against them but their profession....

Gaurav u either have a bird brain or a pea brain....... i leave tht upto u....

God damn there are people like gauravs......

[gaurav200x]

1) i am not pointing to ur wife or watever.... i dnt care.... i am just making a point.... wud u allow neone close to you to sell their body for money ! if yes ure one of the worsts people i got to know abt...

2) are you always so stupid....... and btw look whos talking 'mind your language'.... who started it in the first place ( look before you leap).... tht warning meter is 100% not bcos of using profanity.. it will go away........ neways i dnt care.. when i want to make a point i will make it.. its tit for tat.....

3) whos talking abt age old traditions here...... hit ur brain hard with a baseball bat..... its just about society and profession..... not the person.... and i am not comparing it with killers or gangsters watever..... i am just saying some professions will always be looked upon with disgust......



first of all you justify why they sell their body... 2nd.. u say they are just doing a business... 'Its just they use their body differently'...

cant u intrepret this into support.... tht it is acceptable to be pornstar....


I said this now and before.. i am not against them but their profession....

Gaurav u either have a bird brain or a pea brain....... i leave tht upto u....

God damn there are people like gauravs......

Now i understood why u r a big time joke?

1) I dont care if they sell their bodies or not, as long as they're doing it willingly. It is their wish and their body and they can do anything with it. Had to tell u bcoz it was so implicit but not for u.

2) I said u were talking like a jackass, never called u a jackass...... bcoz u started taking things on a personal note. First learn the art of debating before jumping in one and starting mud slinging.

3) 3) whos talking abt age old traditions here...... hit ur brain hard with a baseball bat..... its just about society and profession..... not the person.... and i am not comparing it with killers or gangsters watever..... i am just saying some professions will always be looked upon with disgust......

if u have a bad memory as well look up and who started talking about traditions, society and who compared them with killers.


first of all you justify why they sell their body... 2nd.. u say they are just doing a business... 'Its just they use their body differently'...

Yes, i say that they're just doing their business and using their body as they like. What's wrong in that? How different is it from the tobacco example i gave earlier?

Again, i know ur dumb brains wont accept the fact, but this is not encouraging prostitution. Confused? Think hard before making a fool of urself again.

cant u intrepret this into support.... tht it is acceptable to be pornstar....


There is a difference betn the two .... supporting and not shouting slogans. Something called "live and let live"


Gaurav u either have a bird brain or a pea brain....... i leave tht upto u....

God damn there are people like gauravs......


well atleast i have a brain. You lack even that :(

p.s. no wonder i told u learn the art of debating...... for u start cussing like an inane person..... Go, get a life..........

[karma]

Now i understood why u r a big time joke?

1) I dont care if they sell their bodies or not, as long as they're doing it willingly. It is their wish and their body and they can do anything with it. Had to tell u bcoz it was so implicit but not for u.

2) I said u were talking like a jackass, never called u a jackass...... bcoz u started taking things on a personal note. First learn the art of debating before jumping in one and starting mud slinging.

3)

if u have a bad memory as well look up and who started talking about traditions, society and who compared them with killers.


Yes, i say that they're just doing their business and using their body as they like. What's wrong in that? How different is it from the tobacco example i gave earlier?

Again, i know ur dumb brains wont accept the fact, but this is not encouraging prostitution. Confused? Think hard before making a fool of urself again.


There is a difference betn the two .... supporting and not shouting slogans. Something called "live and let live"



well atleast i have a brain. You lack even that :(

p.s. no wonder i told u learn the art of debating...... for u start cussing like an inane person..... Go, get a life..........

1)ok... then ur one of the worsts people i know of..... no sane person would go and sell their body unless and until they are forced or some serious problems....

2. hey stop justifying urself...... taking things on personal note.. frankly u started it and we continued it.....

3) please look up all of my posts.. u wud not find even one word about tradition..... seriously gaurav go see a doctor
. by goin with this point what would u consider a killer or a gangster........ they are afterall humans.... but u wud deny any relation with such a person.. because what they do is not acceptable... in the society.... likewise being a pornstar or a prostitute u won't be accepted in the society... i am not comparing them i am giving an example of professions which are not accepted in the society....... brother i am saying both of these professions are not accepted.......


Yes, i say that they're just doing their business and using their body as they like. What's wrong in that? How different is it from the tobacco example i gave earlier? whats wrong in tht... < ding ding ding > the profession as a whole will always be frowned upon....... including the person who follows it...... thts my point... and gaurav if u say it again.... tht repect the damn person yea go ahead... i won't.... and i won't listen to bulls*** from a person who doesnt care if their close ones want to join tht business even if they are willing......... watever it is, even if the person is willing to join it.. i would never allow it...

other thing u change ur stance very fast.... live and let live... yea right.... if u make this point well i always support it....... but u have now completely veered off the debate...




I say yes, because if you dont, more and more people will join this "business" .

There are many ways of earning money and to sell your body for it as a sex weapon is the easiest way out.

Are they not human beings ?? yes they are ... but should you support the way they earn ? Do you want this so called business to flourish and be so usual such that your next door neighbour is a porn star ??

People smoke, people drink, then why is there a ban on smoking? They are not harming anyone else.

People try to commit suicides, then why is attempt to suicide a crime ?

The only need to treat them with deaming eyes is that the next generation does not think of prostitution as " Kewl " way of making money.


i am just saying again for the last time tht i am against the profession(pro- kartik comments) NOT the person.... (is gaurav related to sahara knite ??)


sometimes ure right sometimes ure completely off track.. wats wrong with u gaurav.... after reading ure posts i wud .... or neone wud say tht ure just justifying tht it is just a business............ and neone can pursue it... !!! so ure saying tht do this business if u want to... bcos its just like any other business

wtf are u thinking...

live let live, pro business, ? pick one...... then i think we can debate properly.... i am against the ur pro business mentality..... now u choose one.. ill teach u some art of debating....

1st rule.. CHOOSE A TOPIC......

seriously are u sick or something or uve been like this always... i seriously doubt ure capabilites

CAT ikon/ Gd taker...god help them

and btw my brains are wrking and i bring it to good use... use tht teeny weeny brain of urs and read the above posts 10 times.. maybe tht wud help.....

and wasnt the previous post ur last post..." (and gaurav will reply something more stupider (i kno there is no wrd like stupider) and again i have to copy paste this post... i am very much sure abt gauravs this capability of not understanding"... go ahead gaurav... make my day)

and last not the least...

just make your point in one line plz.. wat u support and not support.... and then i will take it from there

[gaurav200x]

1)ok... then ur one of the worsts people i know of..... no sane person would go and sell their body unless and until they are forced or some serious problems....

2. hey stop justifying urself...... taking things on personal note.. frankly u started it and we continued it.....

3) please look up all of my posts.. u wud not find even one word about tradition..... seriously gaurav go see a doctor
i am not comparing them i am giving an example of professions which are not accepted in the society....... brother i am saying both of these professions are not accepted.......


whats wrong in tht... < ding ding ding > the profession as a whole will always be frowned upon....... including the person who follows it...... thts my point... and gaurav if u say it again.... tht repect the damn person yea go ahead... i won't.... and i won't listen to bulls*** from a person who doesnt care if their close ones want to join tht business even if they are willing......... watever it is, even if the person is willing to join it.. i would never allow it...

other thing u change ur stance very fast.... live and let live... yea right.... if u make this point well i always support it....... but u have now completely veered off the debate...






i am just saying again for the last time tht i am against the profession(pro- kartik comments) NOT the person.... (is gaurav related to sahara knite ??)


sometimes ure right sometimes ure completely off track.. wats wrong with u gaurav.... after reading ure posts i wud .... or neone wud say tht ure just justifying tht it is just a business............ and neone can pursue it... !!! so ure saying tht do this business if u want to... bcos its just like any other business

wtf are u thinking...

live let live, pro business, ? pick one...... then i think we can debate properly.... i am against the ur pro business mentality..... now u choose one.. ill teach u some art of debating....

1st rule.. CHOOSE A TOPIC......

seriously are u sick or something or uve been like this always... i seriously doubt ure capabilites

CAT ikon/ Gd taker...god help them

and btw my brains are wrking and i bring it to good use... use tht teeny weeny brain of urs and read the above posts 10 times.. maybe tht wud help.....

and wasnt the previous post ur last post..." (and gaurav will reply something more stupider (i kno there is no wrd like stupider) and again i have to copy paste this post... i am very much sure abt gauravs this capability of not understanding"... go ahead gaurav... make my day)

and last not the least...

just make your point in one line plz.. wat u support and not support.... and then i will take it from there

blah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blah !!!!!!!!!!!!



This is what i see...... one even loses interest in ur so called RAM-KAHANI...... u twist things in such a way, that they no longer make sense anymore..... u r better suited for Ekta Kapoor's serials than debating. In the first half, u pour in some crap....... and in the 2nd u say just talk about me, crapping my image. Wtf do u know about my personality and what's it got to do with the debate..... and nothing else..... It seems that u have lost ur brains ( if at all they're there initially)

Dude, do us one favour...... Go and shut urself....... and dont spoil the mood here. We started off with a healthy debate, me and kartik and in pours karma and we've all the mud slinging, cussing, and accusations.

and for one note......


a person who doesnt care if their close ones want to join tht business even if they are willing

Listen **** head.... that porn star is no kith or kin or mine..... and i dont care what she wants to do with her life. She rebelled with her family. Not my botheration what she wants to do with her body.

I never said what u've quoted. So stop assuming bullshit of urself or i shall take a personal interest in getting u banned from this forum for abusing another member.

Get it straight in ur head.

p.s. I've no intentions anymore to debate with a person of ur kind who doesnt know what to talk, how to talk, talks crap when he is able to...... wtf

p.p.s AJ was always right.... "never argue with an idiot.........................."

[kartik]

This is a discussion , people are entitled to their opinion.. Only when there are opposite opinions, people can take the pleasure of a group discussion.

Opposite opinions are only to be taken as opinions and NOT as a barometer to pass judgement of anyones character.

DO NOT make personal comments.

[gaurav200x]

This is a discussion , people are entitled to their opinion.. Only when there are opposite opinions, people can take the pleasure of a group discussion.

Opposite opinions are only to be taken as opinions and NOT as a barometer to pass judgement of anyones character.

DO NOT make personal comments.



I hope the 'captain of souls' understands this well....... esp the last line.

[gaurav200x]

Requesting the admin to take action against such users.
Even i can shower all the profanity on u and make a list of all the words u used on me. I bet there would be more than i ever said...

but u started using such words as a part of ur every post. Secondly, i never pin pointed anyone in ur family but u keep doing it again and again even though i never said anything that u commented. You barely assume things without any logical thinking and then pour abuses and call urself expert in debating.

Only in one of my posts i said that why dont u watch the porn with ur whole family when u were justifying watching porn.

Besides my anger came only when u started saying things on a personal note, which i never did.

[kartik]

THARED KALOSED ...

This is a discussion forum .. NOT FISH MARKET :p