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kartik
January 24th, 2006, 08:24 PM
:argue:

Inter gender relationships taking its toll, the media giving a hype to the topic, bold movies by film makers on this issue has given various facets to this subject and every person will have a different opinion on this one and a different reason for that particular opinion.

What is your take in it ?? Should Gay / Lesbian relationships be accepted ?? Should they be legal ??




milind20
January 24th, 2006, 09:54 PM
well.....
i guess same sex relationships are something tht the society will never accept, specially in India. if u see the world, recently we had a gay marraige between Elton John nd the other (donno his name)..... so as far as the west is concerned, i guess ther already exists such relationships we hear nd read in the newspapers everyday bout such incidents happenin in the west.....

but, again as i said, it is far frm being legalised in India. nd rightly so, i dont thnk it shud b legalised because it wil not potray a good picture in the minds of the kids.... ther might be cases in india too, but i strongly oppose same sex relationships being shown in India....
(psst: but u never know, this is India - kuch bhi ho sakta hai)

karma
January 24th, 2006, 10:07 PM
In India,homosexuality has been a taboo subject. There are signs in some areas that gay people are now becoming more open in their behaviour take an example of our very own serial gay :pound: BOBBY DARLING

The real issue in India when it comes to sexuality is the battle between the older guardians and the new generation.
Here there is a lot of apprehension about gays and lesbians in our society.. we still giggle when we see a :gossip: a person behaving quite unnatural. "Baila" we call them that... right

In a largely patriarchal society, these relationships bear the brunt of social ostracisation and the law. In many states, we have seen people taking their lives after facing harassment at home and outside.

See... we still cannot accept these type of relationships and behave normally... most of us... but i believe that, people who want to live their life by going against the ways of nature should do so.. as they want.. because now the society as a whole is opening up especially the urban cities.. i have met people who openly say that their are gay... so what, i say... live ur own life but dont look at me.. i feel rather unsafe hehe :pound:

on a more serious note
Cmon live and let live...

i think u people remember the movie 'Fire'. it was met with such a lot of criticism etc... but guyz and gals face the truth there are people who are gays and lesbians walking besides you.. eating with you or even chatting with you... hehe 'play safe'

people do not openly announce what they are.... they fear the society.. as we say there are a lot people living their lives inside the closet...

get over this... chill out.. there is, and there will be..
recently there was some dude, Elton John(Thx Milind) a singer i think who married another guy. its there, he was a celebrity and we used to listen to his songs...

who cares..

kartik
January 24th, 2006, 10:51 PM
Hmm... Here is what I think ...

There are always two facets of every aspect. And there is always a Good solution and a Not-so-good solution. There is nothing like Wrong per se.

Now, if a person chooses that he is attracted to some person of the same sex, then as karma said, we should live and let live . Without hyper reacting we can just accept the facts and move on..

Else, we can react like Milind, oppose and retaliate because it might affect the young minds who hold the future of the country !!

The question here is not whether people will accept it , the question is, WHETHER THEY SHOULD ??

I would say, yes, they should be accepted. Now dont get me wrong here when I say , if its about kids, they have seen stray dogs having sex on the streets and movies nowadays are more of soft porn of the 60's .

Sex has been a part of grown ups daily life, and in the olden days, sex was considered a prayer.

The olden days temples have carving of erotic positions and our Kama sutra has definately given group sex a new meaning for the west.

So, If all this originated from the east, then y is east so conservative about homo-sexuality !!

If a person finds comfort and gets emotional support from a person of the same sex and is attracted to him/her , well its their choice, their life, their decision to live it their way. They are not going to harm you.

Just the way you enjoy your freedom, let them enjoy theirs !!

:blah: :blah: I feel, this creed of people should be accepted in the society !!

milind20
January 24th, 2006, 11:25 PM
was just thnkin guys.....legalising homo-sexuality wil b a very good tool to stop population explosion.....hahahaahaha....

but....no i really oppose it because of the simple fact tht it wil promote more sexuality in the society wich is definitely not wat v want....corrupting the minds of the kids wid such a rrelationship is the last thing we want.......

vengabeats
January 24th, 2006, 11:37 PM
but....no i really oppose it because of the simple fact tht it wil promote more sexuality in the society wich is definitely not wat v want....corrupting the minds of the kids wid such a rrelationship is the last thing we want.......

Ok u mean that by accepting the Gay and Lesbian Relationship will lead to corruption of mind of kids

Australia
Belgium - offers legal marriage
Brazil
Canada - offers legal marriage
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Iceland
Israel
Netherlands - offers legal marriage
New Zealand
Norway
South Africa - offers legal marriage
Sweden
United Kingdom

Then wat u say about these countries, They dont have any Kids in their country because they have acepted the Gay & Lesbian relationship

ViJiT
January 25th, 2006, 12:21 AM
Fear and loathing in gay India

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4304081.stm

vishal_1986
January 25th, 2006, 02:58 PM
after lookin at all your replies... wht i wanna say is that... Milind...as far as the society is concerned... i dnt think so it will promote if accepted... righty said and quoted by Venga.. there are so many countries whr its legalised....it dosnt mean that it will promote sexuality in the society.

In India we give too much importance to sex and are not able to talk freely about it. If a person gets attracted to same gender, it is not his fault. What can he do ?

as long as homosexuality remains suppressed by the society it will have connections with negative aspects of life as aids and crime. It requires support from the govt. & society itself to prevent its vulnerability.

well being gay is not abnormal coz if that is the case then i think millions of Indians must go to 2 "Doctors".& those who ask them to do so must know that it is not a desease.if 2 guys/girls want to have sex with mutual consent then i see no reason why a thid person must have problems with it.

now..Milind...again as u said it will promote the society ...take this example.. i want to ask him one question.can u be converted into a gay for money??.will u start liking a boy coz of money.its prepostrous.
thn how can u say tht it will b encouraged...
if dnt find an point goin againt homosexuality... lets agree to the words thrown by KARMA and KARTIK...that "Cmon live and let live..."

thts all tht i gotta say...guys... ne1 against me ?????? lolz

vesh
January 25th, 2006, 04:16 PM
hi, there everyone
as long as i m concerned i don't have any problem with gay and relationships. some people are different and you cannot stop them for being one. so whats the big deal, anyways i think there are more bigger isssues in our country to be discussed rather than this one.
"live and let live"

kartik
January 25th, 2006, 05:25 PM
I think there are more bigger issues in our country to be discussed than this one

lol.. Vesh says that and then he opens a new thread for the BIG FIGHT " Is there a place for sledging in cricket ?? " (http://www.managementparadise.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1608#post1608)

Buddy vesh, if you are given this topic for GD, then i suggest you are better off without the above quoted lines :p

Soo.. no1 except milnd to think it should not be accepted or legalised ??

I think our parents and elders would have a totally different opinon.

Our generation seems to be very liberal and humanist on such issues i guess ;)

sbhaskaran2k
February 7th, 2006, 03:14 PM
We are all earning money to make ourselves happy, so if somebody attracted twds the same sex and if he is going to be happy with that, let them be. I think there is no wrong in that.

Nitin1987
March 27th, 2006, 12:14 AM
dear Frnds,
Gay and lesbian relations shouldnt actually matter. A person whether gay or straight can be a friend for not what he is sexually but wat he is as a person. What a person does in his private life is not a concern of somebody else. Let them live the way they want to - if as a persont ehy are good and friendly they are welcome. India will have to accept the truth - the fact is Gays and lesbians exist and there is no way that it can be stopped - it is an act of nature so as with everywhere else Acceptance is the only logical way and we as people should learn to live with it.

- Regards Nitin

themaharana
May 6th, 2006, 08:24 PM
i think in the modern era , it should be accepted becoz it violates the freedom of action :)

bhavin_3
May 8th, 2006, 01:54 AM
i think in the modern era , it should be accepted becoz it violates the freedom of action :)

Hey der pramod, do justify the statement above.. Thats what big fight is all about providing your views and justifying them with appropriate instances or facts or profoundly thought statements..!!

gaurav200x
May 13th, 2006, 06:09 PM
Hemosexuals whether males or females are God's creation and it is incorrect for another human being to govern their behaviour as long as there is no crime and the relationship is consensual.

However, safe sexual practices needed to be inculcated amongst them to prevent any growth in the aids and the related diseases.

also laws needs to be framed to ensure that no harrassment is carried out and they can lead a free and undiscriminated life.

This is very essential as cases have been reported of excessive torture by police and fellow citizens. We need to understand and accept their identity and not disregard them as unnatural, for the word 'unnatural' has also been defined by the so-called straight junta and now this definition needs to be revised.

aspire
May 24th, 2006, 06:06 PM
Who are we to accept .. its an individuals choice .. if they are ok with it .. why should we be concerned .. its just that the society is in a state of flux at the moment .. things which were hidden are slowly coming out of the closet .. thats why all this intolerance ..

even in the days of the kamasutra .. homosexuality and lesbianism was quite prevalent .. and considered quite normal ... the temples at konark are proofs of this .. there are sculptures even showing bestiality was accepted then

on a lighter note .. pls no offence

if god approved of homos he would have created adam and steve
and if god approved of lesbians
he would have created madam and eve

just kidding

regards


shailesh

gaurav200x
May 24th, 2006, 07:22 PM
In this land of morality and falsification, we have forgotten ou ancient practices an have devised new laws, forgetting how rudely they contradict with our ancient times!

aspire
May 25th, 2006, 12:59 PM
In this land of morality and falsification, we have forgotten ou ancient practices an have devised new laws, forgetting how rudely they contradict with our ancient times!


yes so very true .. we proclaim loudly abt our heritage .. and go sissie when it comes to this

regards

shailesh

gaurav200x
May 26th, 2006, 11:17 PM
The freaky thing is, how the things which we can as gruesome or uncultured, was actually practiced in our forefather's cultures... Indians, though, havin the world No. 1 position in terms of population, act insanely when someone talks of topics on sexuality. In fact, some of us would be suprised, if i say that orgies and threesomes were religiously practised in the times of kingship... and the evidence can be obtained from the KS pics and the books pertaining to that times...

Its just that some people, over time, due to their vested interests, have spread fallacy and the others, have been led to believe contradictory statements from what was present in olden times.

I guess, a solution can be to look up to our ancient books, and granths and check out the life of our forefathers... that would open the eyes of many of us. We've got to take out some time, from this fast moving world, and learn to open our eyes....

fite_2_finish
June 3rd, 2006, 03:42 PM
well according to me everyone has a right to live his or her own life as he or she wants to.....well when a guy likes a girl and when a girl likes a guy we dont really oppose to such things czo we think that its natural.....its bound to happen rite? then y cant a guy like a guy and a girl like a girl...well its the same thing as i said.......its bound to happen coz its natural....and wat these gays n lesbain ppl have done dont they have a right to live??

well i really appreciate the kind of self respect BOBBY DARLING had created for himself......he is living life on his own terms n has earn money n fame....jus think wat all problems these ppl have to face.....well very very tough life and mind u they r nt abnormal they r normal ppl jus like us......

well they didnt do anything they were jus born with this kind of sexuality......is it their fault?? well i dont think so......i think that gays n lesbian relationships should definitely be legalised.....

gaurav200x
June 3rd, 2006, 03:45 PM
well according to me everyone has a right to live his or her own life as he or she wants to.....well when a guy likes a girl and when a girl likes a guy we dont really oppose to such things czo we think that its natural.....its bound to happen rite? then y cant a guy like a guy and a girl like a girl...well its the same thing as i said.......its bound to happen coz its natural....and wat these gays n lesbain ppl have done dont they have a right to live??

well i really appreciate the kind of self respect BOBBY DARLING had created for himself......he is living life on his own terms n has earn money n fame....jus think wat all problems these ppl have to face.....well very very tough life and mind u they r nt abnormal they r normal ppl jus like us......

well they didnt do anything they were jus born with this kind of sexuality......is it their fault?? well i dont think so......i think that gays n lesbian relationships should definitely be legalised.....
Well Anuja,
If more ppl think like u, the world would be a happier place to live! :aj:

Great_II
June 6th, 2006, 01:20 AM
Accept ?WTH!!
AREn't these folks Humans too!Its like saying shouldn't "We accept Left handers too?!"
Its a nautral phenomenon so theres nothing we can do or should do.Except for Making Public Display of Affection for Lesbians "a compulsion".
Though its sad to see People like Portia De Rossi(Arrested Development the Bluth sister) to be homosexual(Man sh's haaawt)

prabhatpastor
June 6th, 2006, 11:18 AM
for the previous generation it was all about religion and hiding yourself behind curtains.
i think everyone should have the liberty to express their feelings. if some people feel attracted to someone from the same side, then its not that something is wrong with them, its justa hormonal imbalance. they should be accepted as they are. you should not criticise something if it does not go with the so called "NORMAL" world.
there are so many women who fear men because of brutality done to them and they are more attracted towards women only. they find their partners more reliable and attractive.
just think how much mental pressure will build inside a person who will not be allowed to express himself/herself freely.
some of the many great men were gay. like james baldwin american autor, Drew barrymore(bisexual) , marlon brando(bisexual) [ and recent case rahul mahajan(mumbai mirror 6 june 2006)]etc, etc,
these people are always good at art and sort of stuff.
so i believe they should be accepted into the society/...

bips
August 31st, 2006, 04:48 AM
The question here is not whether people will accept it , the question is, WHETHER THEY SHOULD ??
you make a very valid point.... i totally agree with you

coolguy_10
June 30th, 2007, 08:36 PM
it is not a disorder to be gay or lesbian .... its high time all victorian sections in ouw law are ammended ... wht problem does an individual have if a fellow countryman/woman is having different sexual preferences ???? it should not bother us .....

anu shukla
July 1st, 2007, 12:07 AM
some of the many great men were gay. like james baldwin american autor, Drew barrymore(bisexual) , marlon brando(bisexual) [ and recent case rahul mahajan(mumbai mirror 6 june 2006)]etc, etc,
these people are always good at art and sort of stuff.
so i believe they should be accepted into the society/...

this is smthing unsual whr did u get it frm?? i mean i tried locating this news...but cudn't!! jus want to whether its correct or falsy play!!!
take care
anu

DRISHYA
July 1st, 2007, 09:18 PM
I dont think gay or lesbian marriages should be a threat to our society though india would have difficulty in accepting it. Evry living creature has its own choice to live unless it doesn't hurt other people.... what i have to do if any of my friends or relatives are gays and want to get married that way? its their life n its their choice!!! Forcing them would the biggest mistake...coz u cannot change anybody's basic choice.... like i can't marry a person of my same gender if i am forced. that won't change my preference..... Forcing people on marriage simply spoils the lives of many..

yk_srk
July 2nd, 2007, 11:51 AM
should it be legalized or should it be not....the question remains.....???????

yes i agree that some people act and behave differently than the normal course...
the person hu happens to be a homosexual, has certain rights, which one must respect. but the point is that we indians are too shy to discuss SEX in public, it is such a taboo, that parents are against providing sex education to their children, teachers refuse to teach about sex, and height of this tabooism is, that doctors refuse to deliver child of a pregnant HIV+ lady, and we here on MP discuss abt leagalizing homosexual relations, its big time, we need to educate people around us, please dont be shy about discussing sex, for it is as normal as breathing or any other activity essential for human beings,

Bhupesh
August 14th, 2007, 11:41 AM
I personally feel it should not be accepted in Our culture, but every one has their own choice and freedom so we cannot impose

pratikbharti
September 25th, 2007, 10:59 AM
I strongly feel that same-sex marriages should be acceptable and made legal in India.

Its a matter of personal choice to decide whom to fall in love for..... And if someone gets an attraction for the same-sex, whats wrong in that? Someone can be homosexual or even bisexual............ And being a free and democratic country, we should learn to respect the feelings of others.....

"Freedom is something, where each one has the full right to enjoy his/her freedom, keeping in mind not to interfere with the freedom of others"

So guys just get a more free and open mind, and embrace the natural qualities given to different people, not only in India but also around the world...

aparajitavinay
September 25th, 2007, 06:00 PM
My personal opinion is that Gays and Lesbian relationships are exactly like a heterosexual relationship. just because we haev been conditioned to believe that only a man and woman can live together, doesnt give us enough reason to oppose such relationship. there are a lot of things which we r conditioned to believe but we rebel and do wat we believe. let accepting ppl who r slightly different from us, be one of them

maverick_ronnie
September 25th, 2007, 08:09 PM
frm my point of view i think so there is no crime that an man like man n girl like a girl bt we have think practicle in country like india in metro cities its okh.....bt wat abt other cities..?
n our culture never accept this kind relationship wo sab aa jayenge Vishwa Hindu parishad, then Bajarang dal n all that parties so we should think openly n then then only it will be accpeted in india

beone
June 18th, 2008, 12:37 PM
hahahah when i first read the subject i thought who can discuss a marriage between a gay and lesbian :) than it hit me :)

icecubez
June 18th, 2008, 03:06 PM
well, a person, whtehr a male or a female, shud be given a right to have relationship with same sex ! afteralll its one's choice of how he wants to lead his life !

nkmomin
June 20th, 2008, 12:27 AM
well, a person, whtehr a male or a female, shud be given a right to have relationship with same sex ! afteralll its one's choice of how he wants to lead his life !

yo buddy i am totally with you.

Its their life and let them as they want.

If you don't like this kind of stuff stay away, but you don't have right on any other's life.

dhamodi
June 20th, 2008, 12:52 PM
It should be banned...........................