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ankitgokani
July 1st, 2008, 12:24 AM
Does God exist or is he a man-made creation?


pour wat u think here abt this topic?????????




deepakraam
July 1st, 2008, 11:15 AM
I don't think God is a man-made creation.There are two main epics named Ramayana and Mahabharata which portrays the existence of Gods in India.There are evidences to show the events happened on earth (namely the Ramar Sethu).Jesus christ lived on this Earth and even Prophet Mohammed lived on this Earth.Do you think all are man-made creations?Saints lived on this Earth.When you say about the God as man-made creation,what about the Vedas,Puranas,Quran and Bible.Do they all man-made?I don't think so.Why should man make all these things?Moreover all these things didn't happen on the same time period.It happened on different time periods.So I don't think they are all man-made.

-Deepak.

sweta_agg79
July 1st, 2008, 01:20 PM
No, i dont agree.. God is not man-made..

They exist in our beliefs, in our thoughts... basically they lies in our deeds... which provide us the way and direction in life to move ahead...

Sweta

adi07
July 1st, 2008, 03:53 PM
I agree with Deepak and sweta completely!!!
God does exits

Neel Jani
July 1st, 2008, 04:26 PM
I wont say GOD but i do believe that there is some Supreme Power which controls Living Beings.

I do not believe in Lord Ganesha or Indra etc. Having an Elephant's head etc is unrealistic and man made. I dont believe in lord Shiva or Rama etc etc. They are imaginations of humans.

U should be aware of Navaratri Upvaas and during that time, ppl cant wash their Hairs etc etc. Now you tell me, is there any Rule Book saying the above?? All this is man made imaginations.

But there were HUMANS, whom we say as Sai Baba or Jesus Christ. These were humans but with some grt qualities. They did some very good (good is an inferior word) deeds.

Now its prooven that there are no Witches or Ghosts. But there are souls (spirits) in some parts coz of some bad incidents with them.

Similarly, ppl see Sai Baba in Photo Frames suddenly or they see a Picture of Jesus BLEEDING. Yes it can be true as even their Souls would still be roaming.

U can say these are Grt Souls while many are Bad ones.


BUT IN LIFE REMEMBER 1 THING:-

Never harm any person physically or mentally intentionally. Never do some illegal work. You will always pay for your Bad Deeds in life indirectly. U may not realize it but u will pay for it someday.

Remember, its all upon your deeds. You do good to someone, you will get paid. I have seen that around me and i firmly believe that the Super Power above you is not watching how many times u chant his name. He watches you for how many times you do good to someone.

I never go to any Temple or Pray. But i still get helped by HIM everytime in trouble. Its all coz of Good Deeds.

arjunswami
July 1st, 2008, 10:23 PM
Der r so many unsolved mysteries in dis world,the answers 2 which is not available even with science.....so till v find answers 2 those question,i wud like 2 believe dat God does exist.

gross
July 1st, 2008, 10:43 PM
if GOD does not exists,who created d human then...why majority of the mass believe in such almighty as our creator.......if its a man-made creation why we ask for help from the GOD in case of sorrow or need..............

vkombissan
July 2nd, 2008, 12:13 PM
god exists as a mam-made creation:SugarwareZ-299:

rajdeep_ibs
July 2nd, 2008, 06:16 PM
Does God exist or is he a man-made creation?


pour wat u think here abt this topic?????????

this is one of those subjective issues which has stirred the human imagination since time immemorial.

shlshgaikwad
July 4th, 2008, 11:36 AM
i agree with neel completely.i was quite skeptic in the past but there were so many serious coincidences in my life which when i ponder upon i camt to know about existance of god. and yes thats right. we r paid for our deeds so we should act in such a way to not harm anybody.in fact i do think for those who dont think that god exists just imagine the world without a slight hint of god.they will come to know about it.from my experience i can say that unless one stumbles upon the road one may never care about the pitfalls.

awaisbinmehmood
July 4th, 2008, 05:38 PM
Why are doubting? It's so stupid to ask!

amit_khndlwl
July 4th, 2008, 06:40 PM
i will just ask u why do u want to know that does god exist as i think if u hve self-confidence & hardwork capability then nothing such as god & bla bla r reqd so just concentrate on ur self & ur work,ur ambitions & ten u will know by urself tht finding tht god exist is just a waste of ur time,which is not going to cum back so jus go on a run for urself ur hardwork,confidence,ambition....

Neel Jani
July 5th, 2008, 12:04 AM
i agree with neel completely.i was quite skeptic in the past but there were so many serious coincidences in my life which when i ponder upon i camt to know about existance of god. and yes thats right. we r paid for our deeds so we should act in such a way to not harm anybody.in fact i do think for those who dont think that god exists just imagine the world without a slight hint of god.they will come to know about it.from my experience i can say that unless one stumbles upon the road one may never care about the pitfalls.

Yes mate. Even i had a recent Incident in life where i realised that someone up there is helping me indirectly.

I never believed in GOD, instead i use to insult his "presence". Yet i was helped by him everytime and thsts were i realized that it were my Deeds and nature that made HIM to help me.

Seriously guys, never hurt anyone physically or emotinally on purpose coz u will pay for it.

mohanaries@yahoo.com
July 6th, 2008, 06:01 PM
The Greatest gift that
God
gave as is life......Who is the creator of this world...
------ Vikas Malkani

rahul_parab2006
July 7th, 2008, 12:11 PM
I m agree with the comments of Neel Jani & shlshgaikwad............

People have debated the existence of God for thousands of years. Most conclude that it cannot be proven—one way or the other.

I am very spiritual guy and I believes in God so much, as he helped me each and everytime, im my happiness as well as sorRows..... When no one is there to help me, I m sure God is always there to help me.......
I experienced various pifalls in my life so far, but God helped me wisely to overcome them.... I am thankful to God for that....

as Neel Jani says....

Remember, its all upon your deeds. You do good to someone, you will get paid. never hurt anyone physically or emotinally on purpose coz u will pay for it.

God is the spirit
God is holy.
God is true
God is love and good and, because He is, He is merciful

GOD BLESS U ALL !!! :SugarwareZ-229:

DRISHYA
September 24th, 2008, 06:21 PM
well this questn has no perfect answer.. its on ur belief. God is energy wic is der in evrything in this universe... just think how this whole solar system...galaxy n constellation works..???? on its own?? dat is d unknown energy

manthan_479
September 25th, 2008, 03:26 PM
well Drishya u dnt stop to amaze me with ur answers....
heres asmall story on existence of GOD hope u ppl like it n learn sumthing 4m it...go ahead n read it.......

AN INTERESTING DIALOGUE ABOUT GOD AND SCIENCE
AN INTERESTING DIALOGUE ABOUT GOD AND SCIENCE... MUST READ IT PLZZZZZ
An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science
has with God, The Almighty.He asks one of his new Muslim students to stand
and.....

Professor: You are a Muslim, aren't you, son?
Student : Yes, sir.
Prof: So you believe in God?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Prof: Is God good?
Student : Sure.
Prof: Is God all-powerful?
Student : Yes.
Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most
of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't.How is this God
good then? Hmm?
(Student is silent.)
Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella
(Fellah - and also a peasant in an Arabic-speaking country, esp. in Egypt.[1]).
Is God good?
Student :Yes.
Prof: Is Satan good?
Student : No.
Prof: Where does Satan come from?
Student : From...God...
Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student : Yes.
Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything.
Correct?
Student : Yes.
Prof: So who created evil?
(Student does not answer.)
Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?
All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
Student :Yes, sir.
Prof: So, who created them?
(Student has no answer.)
Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world
around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student : No , sir.
Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God?
Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that
matter?
Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student : Yes.
Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol,science say your
GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.
Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Prof: Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes.
Student : No sir. There isn't.
(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat,mega heat,
white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We
can hit (-) 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further
after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to
describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is
not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.There is pin-drop silence
in the lecture theatre.)
Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?
Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can
have low light, normal light, bright light,flashing light....But if you have no
light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In
reality,darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness
darker,wouldn't you?
Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality.
You argue there is life and then there is death, a good
God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something
finite,something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain athought.It
uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully under stood
either one. To view death as the opposite of
life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive
thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me,
Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes,of course, I
do.
Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the
argument is going.)
Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and
cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not
teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?
(The class is in uproar.)
Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen theProfessor's brain?
(The class breaks out into laughter.)
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt
it, touched or smelt it?.....No one appears to have done so.
So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable,demonstrable
protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir.With all due respect, sir,
how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.
Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
Student : That is it sir.. The link between man & god is FAITH.That is all that
keeps things moving & alive.

DRISHYA
September 26th, 2008, 01:11 PM
ohhh...thanks manthan..even i m surprised to learn that my answers amaze u. The story dat u gave is fantastic... but y dont u mention dat that d student is ABDUL KALAM

Naestved Denmark
September 26th, 2008, 01:18 PM
the question itself has the answer- there are many ways people talk about existance of GOD Spiritually-Physically. It is our needs which raise question on his/her existance.

pahuja.chirag
September 26th, 2008, 04:51 PM
i dont know that god exists or not but yes i will say that there is some power in the nature which is making the world run. ........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

manthan_479
September 26th, 2008, 08:40 PM
ohhh...thanks manthan..even i m surprised to learn that my answers amaze u. The story dat u gave is fantastic... but y dont u mention dat that d student is ABDUL KALAM


hey i wasnt aware that this student was APJ Abdul Kalam..... thanks 4 the info.............

litty
September 26th, 2008, 09:11 PM
GOD do exist......
n ther r gods that r man-made....

chaitu_gnims
September 26th, 2008, 11:05 PM
Just as we cannot see air, but can only feel it, God cannot be seen but only felt.

Peeusha
September 27th, 2008, 12:06 AM
Ofcrs God do exist...Its not the man-made creation..all things in the world are destines and is in the God and i have a firm belief in God

ajii
September 27th, 2008, 12:07 AM
It depends on the person, how he thinks. If the person belives in god then there is god form him and vice versa

shahnawazansari
September 27th, 2008, 08:03 AM
i think god exist everywhere he is not just a man made creation.
if it was so then how adam was the first man on earth how did he come here on earth. how the whole human race is surviving on the face of earth since time immemorial.
science has developed so much in recent times, but it doesn't have answer about...how was the universe before big bang. for sure its something supernatural who has been taking care of everything, and he will take care of us till the day of resurrection.
I'll end my post stating qualities of god to be a god. From "The Holy Quran"

"he is god, the one
he is the self sufficient master, whom all creatures need (he neither eats nor drinks)
he begets not, nor was He begotten
and there is no equal or comparable unto him"

majnubaby
September 27th, 2008, 11:11 AM
i think GOd certainly exists and is thr for all of us evrywhr

krishna murari
September 27th, 2008, 04:46 PM
god is the name of divine power which is invisible but exist.........
earlier man used to worship in the name of god, but now a days, man has created the god for terrifying others...........
some people r creating the confusion .....
but still the invisible force(GOD) works it his way......

rasmitparida
September 27th, 2008, 11:31 PM
hereditary belief which have devinity and which have the power to enhance the will of a beliver.

adi07
September 28th, 2008, 12:53 AM
well Drishya u dnt stop to amaze me with ur answers....
heres asmall story on existence of GOD hope u ppl like it n learn sumthing 4m it...go ahead n read it.......

AN INTERESTING DIALOGUE ABOUT GOD AND SCIENCE
AN INTERESTING DIALOGUE ABOUT GOD AND SCIENCE... MUST READ IT PLZZZZZ
An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science
has with God, The Almighty.He asks one of his new Muslim students to stand
and.....

Professor: You are a Muslim, aren't you, son?
Student : Yes, sir.
Prof: So you believe in God?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Prof: Is God good?
Student : Sure.
Prof: Is God all-powerful?
Student : Yes.
Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most
of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't.How is this God
good then? Hmm?
(Student is silent.)
Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella
(Fellah - and also a peasant in an Arabic-speaking country, esp. in Egypt.[1]).
Is God good?
Student :Yes.
Prof: Is Satan good?
Student : No.
Prof: Where does Satan come from?
Student : From...God...
Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student : Yes.
Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything.
Correct?
Student : Yes.
Prof: So who created evil?
(Student does not answer.)
Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?
All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
Student :Yes, sir.
Prof: So, who created them?
(Student has no answer.)
Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world
around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student : No , sir.
Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God?
Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that
matter?
Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student : Yes.
Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol,science say your
GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.
Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Prof: Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes.
Student : No sir. There isn't.
(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat,mega heat,
white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We
can hit (-) 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further
after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to
describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is
not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.There is pin-drop silence
in the lecture theatre.)
Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?
Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can
have low light, normal light, bright light,flashing light....But if you have no
light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In
reality,darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness
darker,wouldn't you?
Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality.
You argue there is life and then there is death, a good
God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something
finite,something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain athought.It
uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully under stood
either one. To view death as the opposite of
life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive
thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me,
Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes,of course, I
do.
Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the
argument is going.)
Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and
cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not
teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?
(The class is in uproar.)
Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen theProfessor's brain?
(The class breaks out into laughter.)
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt
it, touched or smelt it?.....No one appears to have done so.
So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable,demonstrable
protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir.With all due respect, sir,
how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.
Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
Student : That is it sir.. The link between man & god is FAITH.That is all that
keeps things moving & alive.


Really amazing!!!
U know the question still remains unanswered but i will say it depends on an Individual and his belief wat he wants to beleive!!!

But I qould like to add those people who fail in life n blame it on god r losers big time!!!!
If u fail accept ur mistake n try harder next time n den see how god helps u!!!

david008
September 28th, 2008, 07:45 AM
he totally doesn't exist. science does not agree with him. he is contradictory. the bible is contradictory

Tejas Singh
September 28th, 2008, 11:02 AM
i think god is a man made creation.............................................................

vijay_sing5
September 28th, 2008, 03:31 PM
yuppp !!!!! i belive god still in dis world ......cozzz i hv seen my self god ....frm a distance ...so der is nthin sch man creation ..!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chandoo.upadhyay
September 28th, 2008, 04:47 PM
god is nothing more only the combination of all good qualities, a general man also can be god but if he have all the qualities
in the same way a devil is combination of all bad work

amit.vyas333
September 28th, 2008, 04:51 PM
Just like most things around us, man has made the concept of god for his convenience. He needs someone to blame when things go wrong and heap accolades on when things go right!!!!!!!!!!

silversurfer
October 2nd, 2008, 08:17 PM
whether god exsists or not.. the belief in a higher power prevents many untoward incidents and also gives us courage to be consistent wen faced with difficult situations.

Jonna
October 2nd, 2008, 08:41 PM
well.......d topic is totally subjective ^_^

according 2 me God does exist......as der many unsolved mystry in nature...which till 2day no human has found solution

many Questions lyk...hu created d universe....hw did life come into xistence...etc....arnt answered

many researched r conducted bt still d ans 2 such Questions remains a mystry...

betsy.zac@gmail.com
October 6th, 2008, 09:16 PM
Sociology as a discipline teaches dat man started worshipin the forces of nature to deal with his own fears and out of this an elaborate system of religion was created with all its rules and regulations.It helped bring out law and order and effective functionin among the people.
I am a stauch believer in the Supreme Being, however religion as it is organized today with all its do's and dont's dont facinate.
All da major religions of the world teah equality, respect for all, love,humanity..
So if ur refferin to da concept of a God who will punish and judge i do not agree..

sanket22988
October 7th, 2008, 07:01 PM
The answer to this question is both, yes and no. Yes as GOD exists as a power which coordinates the functioning of the entire universe & no as the various God's ( i.e. different names of him as we know, but I strongly believe GOD IS ONE IT IS JUST THAT WE VIEW HIM FROM DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW ) is our attempt to manifest this power into human form.
So GOD is the belief of a person is the SUPREME POWER.

www_garima
October 7th, 2008, 10:00 PM
my words will not convince those who dnt blv in GOD... but still i'l say.. yes GOD exists... he is not any man made thing.. infact man is a GOD-MADE thing..

DesiDude666
October 8th, 2008, 10:33 AM
As a Hindu, my concern is primarily on the existence of Gods, in pluralistic analysis. There is no poitn discussing on the existence of Yahweh, the Judeo Christian 'God' when we remain in the dark about our own!!

As far as the existence of divinity goes (that's what I think is valid in this case, for the discussion) I am a neutral. There is no empirical evidence of the existence of divinity, so I am more or less an agnostic. There is strong historical evidence about Yeshua and Yahweh being complete man-made creations btw... same cannot be said about Hindu divinity since there aren't any defined authors (whoever created Vishnu or Shiva?!) or fiction-writers such as Mark/Luke/John etc who literally created Yeshua for Christians.

Personally, I find the Gita (yes, I may seem biased) the most compelling historical piece of philosophy ever written by man, something that compares to the Rights of Man by Paine and even Categorical Imperative by Kant - only thing being Ved Vyas is hailed as a 'divine' poet. Whatever still makes sense today is worth discussing. Whatever that doesn't (aka the bible and monotheism) needs to be either revised or flushed down the toilet of history. Frankly speaking.

yk_srk
October 8th, 2008, 02:36 PM
god exist for thos hu belive in Him, and he is a man made entity for non belivers,

DesiDude666
October 8th, 2008, 04:44 PM
god exist for thos hu belive in Him, and he is a man made entity for non belivers,

I think he is either an ET for non-believers... or the unfathomable for non-believers who happen to be physicists... !

perpectuals
October 8th, 2008, 05:26 PM
I often doubted with a question...

I believe in God. Its a supernatural Power of World. But, according to science, There are more galaxies in the universe. What's about that? Is there each god - different gods & powers?

We can't judge. There's a power. That's it.

I want to share an incident with you all that happens in my life before a few years.

My home is in a small lane where 2 homes are there next to my home. Opposite to my home, there is a home in north direction and some areas of the home is unbuilt and with grass.Their home and our lane are seperated by a small compound (i.e.) height of a 6th std studying person.

Coming to the event...

One day afternoon, i saw a small lizard without tail (It's tail is cut) in front at the edge of the compound in the side of my home.I just think of that it's the path everyone will have their walks - coming to their home & going outside. So, someone, may mistakenly, kill the lizard, while walking unnoticedly. So, i have taken a single stick of broomstick and take that lizard and put it on the other side of the compound. i.e - The grass area of our neighbour's home, where there is a small dig with some big stones covered at middle and end above and grassed spreadly at entire dig - that is used for the allowance of water as a result of washing their clothes as well as pouring the water after washing their hands in plates.

I throw the lizard in that dig - where at that time, i noticed, there is no water.

suddenly, i am shocked seeing the event happen there.

As i throw the lizard at that dig, suddenly an big insect. I don't know, it's name. In tamil, it's called ARANAI - having an orange color tail and lines on its entire body - came out from inside the stone in the dig - catches the lizard in its mouth , went back inside the stone.

What i can say.... I decided in my mind to save the lizard. But, it ends in such an end. I think of that minute - What's actually is the design of this god. Whether, he, thru me, helps that big insect to have the food - the lizard.

Say me anyone, what you think of this happening.

Is there god? Is it fate? or...............

God created the man at first. Who creates God?

DesiDude666
October 8th, 2008, 06:36 PM
I often doubted with a question...

I believe in God. Its a supernatural Power of World. But, according to science, There are more galaxies in the universe. What's about that? Is there each god - different gods & powers?

We can't judge. There's a power. That's it.

I want to share an incident with you all that happens in my life before a few years.

My home is in a small lane where 2 homes are there next to my home. Opposite to my home, there is a home in north direction and some areas of the home is unbuilt and with grass.Their home and our lane are seperated by a small compound (i.e.) height of a 6th std studying person.

Coming to the event...

One day afternoon, i saw a small lizard without tail (It's tail is cut) in front at the edge of the compound in the side of my home.I just think of that it's the path everyone will have their walks - coming to their home & going outside. So, someone, may mistakenly, kill the lizard, while walking unnoticedly. So, i have taken a single stick of broomstick and take that lizard and put it on the other side of the compound. i.e - The grass area of our neighbour's home, where there is a small dig with some big stones covered at middle and end above and grassed spreadly at entire dig - that is used for the allowance of water as a result of washing their clothes as well as pouring the water after washing their hands in plates.

I throw the lizard in that dig - where at that time, i noticed, there is no water.

suddenly, i am shocked seeing the event happen there.

As i throw the lizard at that dig, suddenly an big insect. I don't know, it's name. In tamil, it's called ARANAI - having an orange color tail and lines on its entire body - came out from inside the stone in the dig - catches the lizard in its mouth , went back inside the stone.

What i can say.... I decided in my mind to save the lizard. But, it ends in such an end. I think of that minute - What's actually is the design of this god. Whether, he, thru me, helps that big insect to have the food - the lizard.

Say me anyone, what you think of this happening.

Is there god? Is it fate? or...............

God created the man at first. Who creates God?

Did you ever think of that fact the reason why human beings can reproduce, manage their own existence and even 'create intelligence' is because there never was or a need for divine intervention!

The reason why the food chain exists is for self-management. A self-correcting automated system of existence, I don't see God/s behind it, if he/she/they exist/s they have designed all of this to be self managing, not to be waiting around the corner for your little prayer or even listening to your thoughts. It's nonsense; a group of people in teh sky, listening to your every thought/speech and reacting to your every move...!

So, in the case you've mentioned, because the lizard is food for the insect means taht it proves there is no divine purpose at all!!! It's merely the food chain. Try throwing the most religious person you know in this planet to a hungry lion, he *will* get eaten anyway, irregardless of his belief in God. That proves it, since I am an agnostic, that God/s either do/es not exist or they simply don't bother with it at all, frankly, if I was one, I wouldn't too - it's a nasty job.

sagarikagadge
October 9th, 2008, 07:44 PM
i dont think anybody can find out whether god exists or not........does man really think he/she can find out who god is, his/her sex, his/her home, etc. etc..............out IQs r so limited and deliberately so (by that 'GOD' thing), we just cannot find out the origin and all other secrets of this universe (god included)...........

got it..........

just forget this god business, all of u and get down to work,,,,,,,,,,,be good, do good, and die good........samjhe bacchon......

chalo bye, have lots to do.........

omnipresent
October 11th, 2008, 12:02 AM
Even I do agree that THE MIGHTY GOD exists. But unfortunately not all humans have the capacity feel him/her. MAY LORD BLESS ALL HUMANS !

kedar786
October 11th, 2008, 03:14 PM
ya but obvious god exists...

its so simple ..... if ne1 wanna say ki god doesnt exists thn y in out india ther r so many temples so many other castes ppl also believe ......... every caster has ther own , such as mushjid for muslims , temple for hindus etc etc...... if god is nt here thn y do we go ther ?? y do ppl celebrate ganapatis ???

kedar786
October 11th, 2008, 03:21 PM
ha 1 more thing ........

if god is nt her thn who created all ths things , world , earth , animals........

man has nt yet inveted all ths things frm wher they came??

gautamsaraswat
October 11th, 2008, 05:19 PM
dear All, What i think GOD exists. If the Devil can exists GOD also exists. If GOD would not have been there then who would have created this beautiful Universe. May be some dont believe that HE doesnot exists & just the man made creation or belief......but there are so many incidents which has happened on this Earth & has force us to believe that GOD exists

UBERMANAGER
October 11th, 2008, 06:15 PM
There is a difference in terms of if god exists for and individual, and how it is defined in cultural terms.

Is the god that others see different to ones idea of god. The ontological debate.

Is religion a product of human culture, due to the human condition as humans having finite lives, and for socio-political reasons having a religion to organize around such as moral order in terms of what is defined as 'good' and 'bad' 'thou shalt not kill' etc (see: Ardent, Heidegger etc) or as 'truth'.

Or is god dead? As Nietzsche most misunderstood claim, denounces, in the gay sciences explains, "god is dead, and we have killed him" - meaning that since the 19th Century the influence of god on how people organize has declined.

People now organize around other institutional forms, businesses, markets, bureacracy etc...

How long will people even debate this?

jogabonito
October 11th, 2008, 10:10 PM
i think that there are many ways to look at the subject but I think that there had to be some kind of external force that cause the "big bang".

DesiDude666
October 12th, 2008, 12:57 PM
ya but obvious god exists...

its so simple ..... if ne1 wanna say ki god doesnt exists thn y in out india ther r so many temples so many other castes ppl also believe ......... every caster has ther own , such as mushjid for muslims , temple for hindus etc etc...... if god is nt here thn y do we go ther ?? y do ppl celebrate ganapatis ???

It's called anthropology and it's pretty common. God didn't make these temples, men did. In fact, if God/s exists - he has more or less forgotten about this place.

DesiDude666
October 12th, 2008, 01:32 PM
dear All, What i think GOD exists. If the Devil can exists GOD also exists. If GOD would not have been there then who would have created this beautiful Universe. May be some dont believe that HE doesnot exists & just the man made creation or belief......but there are so many incidents which has happened on this Earth & has force us to believe that GOD exists

There is no devil for hindus. We hindus do not have a 'perfect' evil. Everything has a balance - from Ravan to Asuras (Bali being a great example) there is no evil in Hinduism.

That said, I am the devil, so are you - depending on the time and circumstance.

sunny666
October 12th, 2008, 04:06 PM
i do agree that god exist but i dont believe that he is the creator of the world...this waold has come into existance because of evolution...we believe in him because since we are children our parents inculcate this in our heads...and probably coz of the fear of god we dont do the bad things..atleast not all of us....he definately makes the world a better place and makes his existance felt but he is not the creator...this is what i think

CITYBOY
October 17th, 2008, 07:19 AM
bro

god does exist yar/

otherwis who has created thee universe?

karamjit_ubs
October 17th, 2008, 08:26 AM
it is upon what you want to believe..
i believe God is there.. and present everywhere, all the time.
it is about believing, i guess

suman.om
October 20th, 2008, 03:49 AM
God exists otherwise all our decisoisn would have resulted in success the way we perceive them to culminate into access

blofer
October 20th, 2008, 11:57 AM
I dont know if any of you have heard about Michael Tsarion.... an Irish alternative historian...
Personally, I believe in nature, now you can go with the question of "who created nature?" "can nature be created?".... and so other question...
The answer of everything relies on "faith on something"... and I do have faith on nature...

neha archana
October 20th, 2008, 08:22 PM
hi friends good evening as the title of the debate asks that it is man made or God really exists. in my view we neither deny nor accept if we deny that there is no god then who is the supreme power that regulaiting us when ever we realise that god nothing then some tjing happen happens and we force to belive that god exists but if we accept that there is god then none of us have seen god.our medical science totally deny the existance of god
:SugarwareZ-295:
so in my view god is our faith, the person who has faith in god realise it but if a person does not belive in god he will never realise it.so god is our belive

Jayen Sharma
October 20th, 2008, 08:40 PM
Very much debatable.. I think if u have faith - God is there.. and sometimes if certain things or if I may say so miracles happen, faith becomes stronger. At the same time, if a person doesn't have faith he might term this miracle as co-incidence. There are quite who often tend to lose faith when something wrong happens in their lives. Its just the faith within you that can answer this question. No science could help one get this answer

CITYBOY
October 20th, 2008, 08:41 PM
no neha// medicaal science never denies the existence of god.//

NIHARIKA SONI
October 20th, 2008, 10:15 PM
Does God exist or is he a man-made creation?


pour wat u think here abt this topic?????????
god do exixt 4 ppl who blv in life......... 4 those who dont, n 4 those 4 whom , its jst science all around, hw will they cnvince me about th miracles happens wen sum1 jst comes out of death.... its personal belief............thts th punchline!

suru27
October 20th, 2008, 11:27 PM
well if science can exist on thousand asumptions.. why cant there can be an asumption of existence of god ,specially when science fails to xplain a lot of things without proof including concept of life...

squareleg
October 21st, 2008, 01:08 PM
I don't think God is a man-made creation.There are two main epics named Ramayana and Mahabharata which portrays the existence of Gods in India.There are evidences to show the events happened on earth (namely the Ramar Sethu).Jesus christ lived on this Earth and even Prophet Mohammed lived on this Earth.Do you think all are man-made creations?Saints lived on this Earth.When you say about the God as man-made creation,what about the Vedas,Puranas,Quran and Bible.Do they all man-made?I don't think so.Why should man make all these things?Moreover all these things didn't happen on the same time period.It happened on different time periods.So I don't think they are all man-made.

-Deepak.

I agree with Neil Jani and completely disown what Deepak said.

The very saying that ther r two great epics Ramayana and Mahabharata is enough to alight a rational man thinking that they are mere epics, mythological characters - about how ideal behaviour a Great man shud
possess.

Do all thos followers really practice it? No, otherwise India wud have been what we boast of it, once beign a "sone ki chidiya"

If God exists start disowning him, how can he allow all kind of differences betn the very people he has created or given birth to. Tht is as if saying a mother differentiates between her sons. Will our boasted Indian culture accept this?? A mother treating her sons unequally and with affection for one and hatred for other.

Every1 knows Ramayana was written by Valmiki, tht in itself proves Ram never existed in flesh n soul. R u saying a person, a thief, had for years observed a person Rama & all characters thruout their lives, and then went on to pen it all after giving up his bad deeds.

Same is wid Lord Ganesha, trace history and its not even 100 years old custom. BalGangadhar Tilak started it just to associate in name of religion so as to avoid British rulers from stopping them to assemble.

Having an Elephant's head etc is unrealistic as Neil quoted.

Moreover how can the 34 Crore Hindu Gods stand mute when all kinds of things r being done in front of their vigilant eyes. On an average its one GOD for two people. (In India Muslims, Buddhists, Christians, Parsis), are other religions if one remembers. The thing is in India its very common to make Gods. C all these Baba Logs today, surrounded by Women,running ashrams, politics r they all saint, not one of them.

But thing is that we want to turn blind eye to all this. Coz its a matter of faith. Tell me how many here had really choosen their own religion or studied any religion. We hav merely accepted it coz our parents practice the same. No questions asked, as its a matter of faith. And tht is how our beliefs r nurtured thrupout our life.

There hardly any practical thought or scientific reasoning involved. So when even we know something utterly false, we dont deny it, if it is said by the Saint or questions our religion, customs and traditions.

Do u all accept everything else said by parents with same zeal. Never, but when it comes to religion, just follow it.

Now sure Jesus Christ, Prophet Mohammed were born n existed. THeir disciples made them Gods and not a super creation n super power as thought elsewhere in Hinduism.

Who has really championed the cause of Women? For Generations our ancestors didnt allow them to move out of kitchen. It was same ridiculous Talibanism here. Washing feet of husband n drinking water, Sati, child marriage all kinds of derogatory things. To top it all the same culture has Glorified "Maa" or motherhood, and how does any son accept his mother been treated so unfairly.

Who brought relief, who opened the First Girls School, do u all remember, Mahatma Jyotirao Phule and Savitribai Phule. No. Coz they were human, and not turned into Gods. Why again coz of religious hatred tht is nurtured by our forefatehers. We were all thought in schools this, their hardships, our forefathers throwing shit on them as they broke the ridiculous customs. Yet how many show respect for them, let alone worship them. Surely not a single one here, not even the very Girls or women who r as liberal and free today.. Walk across Mumbai n major cities n one sees how independent these girls hav becom. But do they all know who is their real messaih, mascot. Had it been for their very own fathers n ancestors, these women wud still be cooking n washing clothes n nothing more.

And c where women r today. U boast of Indra Nooyi, Kalpana Chawla, but who opened the doors closed for centuries for them. U turn blind eye.

Imagine you hav 2 sons, One is given education, schooling n all, second child was stopped from seeking education, just for 10 or 20 years and then after that opened doors, given free education n all, will the second acquire same skills as the first in couple of years. Yes or No

Our parents cant match our cellphone or computer skills in just one generation gap. And u xpect ppl illtreated for generation n centuries, who were barred, stopped from basic schooling n education to come up in 50 years. When to look over it ther r the very ppl who created all this differences. Now, will there b fair judgement ever?

Then u say how unpriviledged we r, stories of ant n grasshopper circulate.

That is our basic corrupt society n mind. We know but wont accept it as it hurts our pride. In a nutshell all this Vedas, Puranas r scrap, coz they teach differences, hatred. Why it was done?

India always has had a opened door policy, All kind of rulers hav invaded this country. and it was a Golden state centuries ago, sone ki chidiya. The times of Lord Buddha.

Then Some people who had no homes, were always wondering Aryans came here, they were thrown out of their own land, Here since they were in less no.s or handful, now how to merge with Indians The fear of being in minority or in less no.s So They saw the innocent minds here, and started creating all sorts of stories, vedas, gods scripts basically dividing lines only to become a Ruler here, kept ppl of this country engaged in chanting Gods name n not apply their own minds.

THey made ppl believe God will decide ur fate, n created as many ladders so that no one ever comes up and question their authority.

So a Khstriya remains Kshtriya, Vaishya remains Vaishya, Shudra a Shudra, nonsense, one is born from belly, other from feet, one from mouth, one from forehead of Lord or Brahma. Incapabilities of God himself. He cant produce all equally.

Will u accept this today, i.e no matter how u work hard or talented u r, you will be in the same position as u hav joined, no promotions and no authority to question,

Think scientifically n rationally, I know not one here is going to change his stand but least be truthful to yourself. Dont go by Indian herd mentality.


Neel Jani


I wont say GOD but i do believe that there is some Supreme Power which controls Living Beings.

I do not believe in Lord Ganesha or Indra etc. Having an Elephant's head etc is unrealistic and man made. I dont believe in lord Shiva or Rama etc etc. They are imaginations of humans.

U should be aware of Navaratri Upvaas and during that time, ppl cant wash their Hairs etc etc. Now you tell me, is there any Rule Book saying the above?? All this is man made imaginations.

But there were HUMANS, whom we say as Sai Baba or Jesus Christ. These were humans but with some grt qualities. They did some very good (good is an inferior word) deeds.

Now its prooven that there are no Witches or Ghosts. But there are souls (spirits) in some parts coz of some bad incidents with them.

Similarly, ppl see Sai Baba in Photo Frames suddenly or they see a Picture of Jesus BLEEDING. Yes it can be true as even their Souls would still be roaming.

U can say these are Grt Souls while many are Bad ones.


BUT IN LIFE REMEMBER 1 THING:-

Never harm any person physically or mentally intentionally. Never do some illegal work. You will always pay for your Bad Deeds in life indirectly. U may not realize it but u will pay for it someday.

Remember, its all upon your deeds. You do good to someone, you will get paid. I have seen that around me and i firmly believe that the Super Power above you is not watching how many times u chant his name. He watches you for how many times you do good to someone.

I never go to any Temple or Pray. But i still get helped by HIM everytime in trouble. Its all coz of Good Deeds.

squareleg
October 21st, 2008, 03:03 PM
Jaipur girl set afire for wearing lipstick
Press Trust of India
Saturday, October 18, 2008, (Jaipur)
An 11-year-old girl was set afire by a relative, who was apparently enraged with her for being "scantily dressed" and wearing a lipstick, police sources said.

The girl suffered 90 per cent burns and was stated to be in critical condition at the SMS hospital.

Police have arrested a 55-year-old man who allegedly poured kerosene over the young girl and set her afire in Lal Kothi area of Jaipur, the sources said. The accused is a distant relative of the girl.

The girl is in critical condition, hospital sources said.

Source Article from ndtv.com

CITYBOY
October 21st, 2008, 08:46 PM
god is there its there in all the human faith

DesiDude666
October 22nd, 2008, 07:06 AM
I dont know if any of you have heard about Michael Tsarion.... an Irish alternative historian...
Personally, I believe in nature, now you can go with the question of "who created nature?" "can nature be created?".... and so other question...
The answer of everything relies on "faith on something"... and I do have faith on nature...

Yes, and it's called evolution. You don't 'create' things. They reproduce by themselves. You don't direct things, they conduct their own affairs.

I don't write off god's existence, but as a Hindu I want to believe in a good number of demi-Gods. But do they exist? Firstly, this hypothesis should be proven - whether through general knowledge or scientific evidence.

I want evidence - not one in a billion eye witness, but credible and factual evidence, which is not possible. All we are doing here is speculating.

Philosophy, theology and science don't mix.

DesiDude666
October 22nd, 2008, 07:11 AM
hi friends good evening as the title of the debate asks that it is man made or God really exists. in my view we neither deny nor accept if we deny that there is no god then who is the supreme power that regulaiting us when ever we realise that god nothing then some tjing happen happens and we force to belive that god exists but if we accept that there is god then none of us have seen god.our medical science totally deny the existance of god
:SugarwareZ-295:
so in my view god is our faith, the person who has faith in god realise it but if a person does not belive in god he will never realise it.so god is our belive

It is far easier to deny than to accept. Simply put, there is no evidence. Unlike theorized aspects of science, facts can be refuted and debated, but in the case of divinity, once you engage in robust debate, it is not possible to reach a serious consensus because, quite frankly, God/s may just not exist!

Frankly, I do not believe in a creator. And it's just not medicine which denies miracles (an avenue to the belief in a super man creator) but also biological science. What is impossible, is impossible. Until there is evidence, of course, personally I would prefer this to be not true, because quite frankly, the idea of my fellow human beings being tortured in a 'hell' while I am in paradise is quite inhumane and nasty.

DesiDude666
October 22nd, 2008, 07:14 AM
well if science can exist on thousand asumptions.. why cant there can be an asumption of existence of god ,specially when science fails to xplain a lot of things without proof including concept of life...

No, there is rigourous debate before any theory is even considered. You publish papers, you debate, spend thousands of hours studying credible evidence.

You are making a big mistake by comparing a theory by a person who may not even be able to make it out of an elementary school to a theory by a person with a PhD. If you have undergone the rigours of modern education - you should see this distinction very clearly.

DesiDude666
October 22nd, 2008, 08:58 AM
The very saying that ther r two great epics Ramayana and Mahabharata is enough to alight a rational man thinking that they are mere epics, mythological characters - about how ideal behaviour a Great man shud
possess.

Agreed here, these works are model works of social perfection. They are our cultural identity, which is good.


If God exists start disowning him, how can he allow all kind of differences betn the very people he has created or given birth to. Tht is as if saying a mother differentiates between her sons. Will our boasted Indian culture accept this?? A mother treating her sons unequally and with affection for one and hatred for other.


If he exists, I don't think that would be a great idea - *IF* he exists. Because then, other things mentioned in literature may be considered too. That is if the pluralistic Hindu system of divinity exists - we are polytheistic, let's not assume monotheism just because it's convenient.

As far as our culture goes, any culture that promotes respect of elders, humility and vegetarianism must be tolerated! We don't have a complete evil, we don't have concepts that 'animals are made for eating'. And we don't have concepts that religious genocide is acceptable.

For me, this is a highly evolved human culture - all Indians should be proud of this fact that our forefathers were far more evolved and educated than the rest of the world.


Every1 knows Ramayana was written by Valmiki, tht in itself proves Ram never existed in flesh n soul. R u saying a person, a thief, had for years observed a person Rama & all characters thruout their lives, and then went on to pen it all after giving up his bad deeds.

But what about his territory? It's funny you should say this because there are places of historical references. Take Rameshwaram temple for instance, the story written in the north, and you find a temple in the south with the same name and reference? The north has *never* invaded or even occupied the south.

The West has proven the existence of mythological Jesus because of actual historical references mentioned in their mythological storybook, the bible. But on our end, do you actually think that they actually even invest as much into such expeditions? I am still waiting for something in Gujarat where they supposedly found Krishna's Dwarka - the museum plan is already 10s of years late.

With this form of practice, do you think that evidence, even if it is found, would ever surface? No.

So my point is that the accounts may not be all wrong, may even be a genuine biography - albeit an exaggerated one. The Nepalis used to call their Kings avatar of Vishnu as well - you get the link?

Then again, an invincible bowman with access to a nuclear weapon, that is the brahmastra, is some claim.


Same is wid Lord Ganesha, trace history and its not even 100 years old custom. BalGangadhar Tilak started it just to associate in name of religion so as to avoid British rulers from stopping them to assemble.

Having an Elephant's head etc is unrealistic as Neil quoted.

It is not entirely unrealistic, though in terms of I am closer to your conclusion. It is possible that when single cell organisms evolve, they make have single parents. It may just be possible that there is a combination of man + elephant cell combination. We are nothing more than a walking bag of water! Evolved from single cell organism to this complex collection of millions and millions of cells.

If you had enquired if chimps were close relatives of human beings years ago, you'd have scoffed the idea. So my hypothesis to that is that it is still possible - albeit one within the range of scientific possibilities - all you know is that such things might have died due to competition! They are mammals anyway. That is within a scientific perspective. Besides, historically, there are accounts of a miniature version of a pygmy elephant.


Moreover how can the 34 Crore Hindu Gods stand mute when all kinds of things r being done in front of their vigilant eyes. On an average its one GOD for two people. (In India Muslims, Buddhists, Christians, Parsis), are other religions if one remembers. The thing is in India its very common to make Gods. C all these Baba Logs today, surrounded by Women,running ashrams, politics r they all saint, not one of them.


There are no 340 million Gods in Hinduism - this figure is quoted by some uneducated angrez with no damn formal education at all about our culture. If there are 340 million 'gods' you should ask for evidence. Where did he refer this figure from? Where do such retards get these figures? These are the same people who claim that Christianity is monotheistic despite have the 3 + 1 concept of the 'father son holyspirit' nonsense. Full of contradictory concepts.

On the basis of pluralistic divinity - I should point out that hindus believe in divine hierarchies - that said Indra and the demi gods have 'Gods' too. In this case, according to purans and the vedas, you can divide the concept into four categories - the Vaishnavs who believe in the concept of Vishnu being the Godhead, the Shavites who believe that Shiva is the Godhead and Shakti worshipers who believe in the female Godhead. IN that sense, "hinduism" does not exist just as Christianity, Judaism and Catholicism are consider separate.

Onto the sadhus and other godmen - it's merely a concept that is also applied in the west! Where does a Pope fit into the picture? Is that right? On another note, this is a concept that is completely wrong in our culture - that a sadhu can be God or something. There is little evidence of divinity - and you look for the divine in another human being - complete nonsense.

But every culture has its flaws.


But thing is that we want to turn blind eye to all this. Coz its a matter of faith. Tell me how many here had really choosen their own religion or studied any religion. We hav merely accepted it coz our parents practice the same. No questions asked, as its a matter of faith. And tht is how our beliefs r nurtured thrupout our life.

We can always have debates over issues, and it is not wrong. But what I find wrong is that you condemn things that you have no idea of. This is especially prevalent in the West. You should only comment or enter a debate about concepts that you have complete understanding of, I have countless of times verbally bashed angrezis and even western desi wannabes who go on with their misinformed concepts without engaging in any form of formal study of it all. This is clearly expressing disrespect for us collectively.

These are the basics of our culture, you don't have to believe in them but at least get concepts right - you should not quote figures and facts raised by the angrez who quite frankly can't even sit right on their own toilet seat.


There hardly any practical thought or scientific reasoning involved. So when even we know something utterly false, we dont deny it, if it is said by the Saint or questions our religion, customs and traditions.


But the idea isn't science in the East - we have sufficient understanding of the real and the surreal - our philosophy is by far the most accomplished, and superior to the west. And you did start off this post as such too - that the idea is more exemplary and not literally, if you don't have 'faith'.


Do u all accept everything else said by parents with same zeal. Never, but when it comes to religion, just follow it.

I do, but at my house there is a culture of rigourous discussion. It's an open environment where I am taught to hold a firm conviction over my cultural identity - question where necessary but also make sure that I respect and reflect my identity where in question.


Now sure Jesus Christ, Prophet Mohammed were born n existed. THeir disciples made them Gods and not a super creation n super power as thought elsewhere in Hinduism.

No Jesus, he existed as much as Ram existing - but you seem to be convinced of his existence. That's research for you - the west has sufficiently spent on expeditions while our people aren't bothered - we wait for the west to come over with money for such research instead.

It's obvious that our youth will eventually come to this conclusion!


Who has really championed the cause of Women? For Generations our ancestors didnt allow them to move out of kitchen. It was same ridiculous Talibanism here. Washing feet of husband n drinking water, Sati, child marriage all kinds of derogatory things. To top it all the same culture has Glorified "Maa" or motherhood, and how does any son accept his mother been treated so unfairly.


Yes, and the same culture is the first major culture in the world to worship a female divinity and was very much comfortable with female sexuality. Do you know how tantric form of religion came to be, and how old it actually is?

The washing of feet concept is the same as doing so with your parents - I have done it and will still do it. So it's up to their individual choices. What is suggested in the shastras are a vague form of guidance.

For the information, hinduism has a clear concept - every man's dharm is his own domain. If you think you wish to be the ideal mythological indian wife, go wash the feet of your elders and husband, who is older than you anyways. If you hubby is sensible enough, he will ask you to cease the practice. If not, don't do so - it's your dharm and thus your karm, it's your choice.

But don't confuse guidance to protocols friend - please take note that what is suggested and what is practiced are completely different concepts. It's not derogatory to demonstrate respect, every culture has it's norms.

Like the Muslims kissing the hands of their elders, yes kisses on the hands. The Jews on the cheeks etc. Get the concept of dharm and karm straight. Satism isn't a 'hindu' concept. It was a much modern concept where a woman, at a time when the Khshatriyas could fight anytime and anywhere, where murder, plundering were common, had a choice initially to die off with their hubbies. And many did this.

It obviously wrong and looks worse in the current time, but in those times, this was 'normal'. It isn't like Christianity condemns human sacrifices. Crusades have seen suspected 'witches' burnt alive too, why don't you also mention the Spanish Inquisition? What about Jesus Christ? Every bread you eat in his name is his flesh, and the wine you drink is his blood because he is the 'lamb' of "God". Muslims slaughter animals for their own religion. This form of trend is normal in cross-cultural evolution, the only thing I find disturbing in your post is that you did not sufficiently demonstrate understanding the collective trend and the times in which this was practiced. There is a difference, and it's all the same everywhere.

Yes, it was wrong - but this is a part of cultural evolution - it's the same everywhere, we made mistakes, grew out of it and reached maturity today. And besides, it's not as if satism was a common affair, most of the times, it was the monarchs who wanted to set the example of chastity. It was more of an uncommon affair. Satism was an *uncommon* practice, not common.


Who brought relief, who opened the First Girls School, do u all remember, Mahatma Jyotirao Phule and Savitribai Phule. No. Coz they were human, and not turned into Gods. Why again coz of religious hatred tht is nurtured by our forefatehers. We were all thought in schools this, their hardships, our forefathers throwing shit on them as they broke the ridiculous customs. Yet how many show respect for them, let alone worship them. Surely not a single one here, not even the very Girls or women who r as liberal and free today.. Walk across Mumbai n major cities n one sees how independent these girls hav becom. But do they all know who is their real messaih, mascot. Had it been for their very own fathers n ancestors, these women wud still be cooking n washing clothes n nothing more.

And c where women r today. U boast of Indra Nooyi, Kalpana Chawla, but who opened the doors closed for centuries for them. U turn blind eye.

Nonsense. You fail to mention so many women in history as well. What about the Queen of Jhansi? Indira Gandhi? I don't support complete liberalism but am open to the idea of the rights of man/women. The very sight of Shiva/Shakti in some half form tells me what our forefathers thought about and how they wanted society to exist. You need resources to make it on top, if the women did not have resources, do you want differential treatment? That's not a trait of a balanced society, why the specialized treatment? Things have also just recently opened up in the west, truly secular societies.

It's common in America that even today, women are paid less for the same work than men, what's your comment on that? That Jefferson, Paine and their contemporaries failed? No they haven't it's all a part of evolution.


Imagine you hav 2 sons, One is given education, schooling n all, second child was stopped from seeking education, just for 10 or 20 years and then after that opened doors, given free education n all, will the second acquire same skills as the first in couple of years. Yes or No


So now, wouldn't this be more of a social problem? If your family has just 100,000 to spend on a degree and you have an opportunity cost at hand, you have to make the best possible choice!

You are making it seem as though they really want to not send the other despite having the resources. Poverty and limited resources also play a part in India today. It's not like they have a free choice here.


Our parents cant match our cellphone or computer skills in just one generation gap. And u xpect ppl illtreated for generation n centuries, who were barred, stopped from basic schooling n education to come up in 50 years. When to look over it ther r the very ppl who created all this differences. Now, will there b fair judgement ever?

Yes, it's called evolution. The baby boomers faced the same problem in the industrial age. This is what they call the survival of the fittest - you need to constantly learn and upgrade your skills. For someone for science, you should know this fact that if a living organism stops being competitive it may face extinction! Yes, eventually we may just see this trend - less farmers and more executives and we will start running out of food, when we will start automation - it's so predictable, our trait.

In fact, you have not even considered the fact that we have evolved from an ape to this near-hairless creature. This is what we call evolution. As brutal as it may seem, but it needs to occur - that's the system.


Then u say how unpriviledged we r, stories of ant n grasshopper circulate.


Not really, if there is a will, there is a way.


That is our basic corrupt society n mind. We know but wont accept it as it hurts our pride. In a nutshell all this Vedas, Puranas r scrap, coz they teach differences, hatred. Why it was done?

Again, have you read any of them? I take an exception of you making such an statement. Rig Ved is about the river saraswati (which existed in the north btw, they found the underground basin in India, not Russia as previously thought - the 'Arya' concept is merely a term, women used to call their own husbands that) and hymns about the drinks of Indra and his halls etc. Yajur Ved is about medicine, which at that time was an important medical document. Sam Ved is about music and Atharva Ved is about mystical arts and sacrifices. Purans are extensions surrounding mythical stories that help mould social behaviour with stories about demi gods and their lives.

This is a disturbing statement, which I find very very offensive. Any Indian with any form of respect for his culture and identity should condemn this. And what is invigourating is that you hardly know anything mentioned in there.


India always has had a opened door policy, All kind of rulers hav invaded this country. and it was a Golden state centuries ago, sone ki chidiya. The times of Lord Buddha.

Buddha is not a 'lord'. He is merely Sakya Munni who plagiarized hindu concepts - its a historical fact that Siddharth has plagiarized hindu concepts. On his death bed, he advises his students that his way is not a religion, but it is hijacked and sold as one anyway.

And today, we have buddhists condemning the "scrappy" ved and purans despite using these documents to create their own sutras and even plagiarize our demi gods...

I don't buy that buddhist ploy really, what the buddhists have done with Hinduism is exactly what the Christians have done with Judaism. Steal first and prosecute later. If today, I write a thesis and steal ideas from another article, I will get penalized. What about such blatant plagiarism? Fantasy or not, this is not scholarly behaviour.


Then Some people who had no homes, were always wondering Aryans came here, they were thrown out of their own land, Here since they were in less no.s or handful, now how to merge with Indians The fear of being in minority or in less no.s So They saw the innocent minds here, and started creating all sorts of stories, vedas, gods scripts basically dividing lines only to become a Ruler here, kept ppl of this country engaged in chanting Gods name n not apply their own minds.


Utter nonsense. The 'invasion' is a fairytale. It's even well known in Australia that it was a conformation attempt by the Germans to explain their superiority. There are no historical facts because modern evolution theories about migration counter such claims.

Please conduct a little research - historians are already challenging 'invasion' theorists.


THey made ppl believe God will decide ur fate, n created as many ladders so that no one ever comes up and question their authority.

They will, because even in there, all it takes is one possibility of a revolt in a million and you are staring at a revolution that you cannot do anything about! Imagine a jihadi strapping himself with a bomb, isn't that the concept of a personal God? I don't see you condemning that.


So a Khstriya remains Kshtriya, Vaishya remains Vaishya, Shudra a Shudra, nonsense, one is born from belly, other from feet, one from mouth, one from forehead of Lord or Brahma. Incapabilities of God himself. He cant produce all equally.

Because of limited resources - for your information, in modern anthropology, it is a proven fact that human beings will *ALWAYS* have a hierarchy. And with that in mind, if you have actually studied in your management course, you may have learnt that there is a *CLASS STRUCTURE* that is even present today - and measurement is done in view to your wealth. High-High, High, High-Mid, Mid-Mid, Low-Mid, Low, Low-Low.

So your suggestion is rather unreasonable. You seem to have been jumping from one pole to the next, as you deemed fit. You discuss divinity, then hop on to sociology with women's rights on which we may have a pretty Ok record and then to anthropology.

The caste system was a model social achievement in the history of man - where social leaders found a way to create an efficient society. Even in modern management, you practice efficiency in production where work is divided, this is the same concept - I am disappointed that as an Indian and a management student you have not been able to understand this simple concept!

Yes, abuse exists, but with the human element, you will always have errors to deal with.


Will u accept this today, i.e no matter how u work hard or talented u r, you will be in the same position as u hav joined, no promotions and no authority to question,

Unlike your current situation, considering Maslow's law, a human being will not look for personal development if he doesn't feel secure - if you consider this fact than at those times where resources were limited and hardly available, they may not even have such ideas anyways. Besides, in their own communities, irregardless of castes, they could attain leadership positions anyways.

If you like things now, I'd love to see if you can become the President tomorrow. If you cannot, why are things better today? There is a class system, there are social restrictions and you have your limitations?

You are condemning for the sake of condemning and I didn't find this any more constructive and anything I've heard from a desi.


Think scientifically n rationally, I know not one here is going to change his stand but least be truthful to yourself. Dont go by Indian herd mentality.


Neel Jani

My advise would be doing more reading and after that, constructively debating.

charmainedcunha
October 22nd, 2008, 11:47 AM
God certainly exists . Its religion that's man-made!!!

squareleg
October 22nd, 2008, 03:00 PM
Thanks, for explaining. Agreed some, Disagree most..

firstly about hopping from topic to another, was rather done than saying YES God exists or not.

Surely, some things u hav said r fine and some r debatable and some utter misconceptions or untrue (least for me)

I 'll get back to u, as u did, not in a hurry, coz evidence is wht u seem to ask for.

Else no one ever denied atleast abt 34 Crore Hindu Gods. Moreover nothing angrez abt it, wht i put forth, and we cant giv their examples to deny our wrongdoings .

Leave that to politics.

Bye.

Agreed here, these works are model works of social perfection. They are our cultural identity, which is good.


For me, this is a highly evolved human culture - all Indians should be proud of this fact that our forefathers were far more evolved and educated than the rest of the world.


With this form of practice, do you think that evidence, even if it is found, would ever surface? No.

We can always have debates over issues, and it is not wrong. But what I find wrong is that you condemn things that you have no idea of. This is especially prevalent in the West. You should only comment or enter a debate about concepts that you have complete understanding of, I have countless of times verbally bashed angrezis and even western desi wannabes who go on with their misinformed concepts without engaging in any form of formal study of it all. This is clearly expressing disrespect for us collectively.

These are the basics of our culture, you don't have to believe in them but at least get concepts right - you should not quote figures and facts raised by the angrez who quite frankly can't even sit right on their own toilet seat.


No Jesus, he existed as much as Ram existing - but you seem to be convinced of his existence. That's research for you - the west has sufficiently spent on expeditions while our people aren't bothered - we wait for the west to come over with money for such research instead.


If you like things now, I'd love to see if you can become the President tomorrow. If you cannot, why are things better today? There is a class system, there are social restrictions and you have your limitations?

You are condemning for the sake of condemning and I didn't find this any more constructive and anything I've heard from a desi.



My advise would be doing more reading and after that, constructively debating.

dj55163
October 22nd, 2008, 05:16 PM
this is one of those subjective issues which has stirred the human imagination since time immemorial.

shipuu
October 22nd, 2008, 06:27 PM
yeah i feel some power is for sure..
there is something that we call as natural power . everything cant be justified by science. somewhere human power come to limitation. i believe god is dere. for me god is natural power.

gyaneshsinha
October 23rd, 2008, 01:25 AM
If God does exist, we cannot have the discussion in the frame of reference we exist in. As Newton also explained, a person on a moving platform, ignorant of the outside world would feel the platform to be stationary. I believe this is the exact case with God. If he exists in the form we believe, then we cannot ever prove or disprove its existence, and this will be only a matter of belief or faith.

If he doesnot exist, then also some people might conjure up some name, or some thing to explain things unexplained by their limited logic. However much someone tries to make them understand, you cannot get them out of their belief.

Thus, the discussion is merely of faith. For those who dont believe in God, why get bothered about the theists. And for the believers, anyways the non believers are going to get it after death.

DesiDude666
October 23rd, 2008, 04:55 PM
If God does exist, we cannot have the discussion in the frame of reference we exist in. As Newton also explained, a person on a moving platform, ignorant of the outside world would feel the platform to be stationary. I believe this is the exact case with God. If he exists in the form we believe, then we cannot ever prove or disprove its existence, and this will be only a matter of belief or faith.

If he doesnot exist, then also some people might conjure up some name, or some thing to explain things unexplained by their limited logic. However much someone tries to make them understand, you cannot get them out of their belief.

Thus, the discussion is merely of faith. For those who dont believe in God, why get bothered about the theists. And for the believers, anyways the non believers are going to get it after death.

But then again, is 'God' even considered a scientific theory at all? I don't remember any biological thesis or on modern physics white papers being written and theory being mathematical represented! Why not I come up with a 'theory' without a degree? Will this be acceptable? How can we measure a scholarly suggestion?

To even consider this a theory or even a hypothesis is a joke. Who has created these theories? How educated are they? What have they done?

Seriously, to even consider it on par with Newtonian science or modern science is a joke! These are not theories, it's theological speculation, that does not need any evidence.

We cannot compare them at all. It's wrong.

in_4_u_babess
October 24th, 2008, 08:45 AM
god dOes rEally eXist.....
even scIence now cOnsiders thAt there is sOme1 Behind the eNtire wORking of the Universe.....
fIrst Think hOw waS mAn cReaTed EvEn when thEre wAs no Male anD fEmale pAIr.......
mAn wAs cReaTed wIth symmeTrical bOdy.... Perfect physique.............
aNd i really dOnt bElive man Came fRom mOnkeyz......
tIll tOday tHe bEst oF sCience cAnnot Make a hUman bEing... aNd ALLAh cReated us wIthout a sample..........
tEll aNe sCientist to prePare they will Look fORsAmples to gEt ideas.......
jst think...
and gOd has cReAted us to oBey his oRders... not tO have fUn...
sPread his wOrd... hElp the pooorr....
BecOz aFter DEaTh wE hAve tO fAce him..........
tHat wIll bE dAy oF jUdgement....

ankitgokani
October 24th, 2008, 10:21 AM
well according to me god does exist but he is in a form of energy it is us who has given him the human form

Sameer Hans
October 24th, 2008, 02:22 PM
It is a question of belief...god is there for people who believe in god, in whatever form, shape or size...similarly, for atheists, god doesnt exist..its fair for people to respect the other persons viewpoint and not impose ones own beliefs

shadab4288@gmail.com
October 24th, 2008, 02:43 PM
Humans have an inclination towards the axiom that "seeing is believing" ,however this does not obstruct a majority of humans to belive in a super natural power namely God. This universe and the plethora of bounties that nature has cannot be "serendipity", the precision with which the Universe is made and the poise with which it is built makes us believe in teh Unseen.
Also it is up to your sixth sense to feel the existence of a power which controls us and which controls the world.
It is better to believe in teh existence of God so that teh contours of humanity are defined. Last but not the least ponder over this
"I am an atheist ! Thank God"

sweetdost4u2003
October 24th, 2008, 07:50 PM
my personal belief is god is no more den a man made creation to justify the acts which he cannot understand or to depend on sources for faith in bad or worst times.

squareleg
October 24th, 2008, 10:53 PM
Natural Power or Super natural force is there for sure.

Somethng tht is driven by nature or natural forces. To that extent if someone gives the unexplained, unknown phenomena; territories for humans an universal name i.e GOD - nature is applauded.

Its more impt to abide by natures law to avoid any uncomforts.
Everything on this planet or universe is not explained, and that is where when human fails to comprehend things, they r thought as divine, in the name of God rather than nature n chapter closed.

its like the question Who came first anda or murgi?
and u go round n round, no one wud say that God came first here to give birth to either anda or murgi.

Even if that was thought then ther wud be immense competition amongst the Gods, as to who really first gave the anda or murgi??

u guys must hav heard What Birbals reply was when Akbar asked him when does a man get real relief? or 'aadmi ko sabse jyaada chain kab milta hain'?

Think, sory if anyones hurt..

yeah i feel some power is for sure..
there is something that we call as natural power . everything cant be justified by science. somewhere human power come to limitation. i believe god is dere. for me god is natural power.

DesiDude666
October 25th, 2008, 09:08 AM
god dOes rEally eXist.....
even scIence now cOnsiders thAt there is sOme1 Behind the eNtire wORking of the Universe.....
fIrst Think hOw waS mAn cReaTed EvEn when thEre wAs no Male anD fEmale pAIr.......
mAn wAs cReaTed wIth symmeTrical bOdy.... Perfect physique.............
aNd i really dOnt bElive man Came fRom mOnkeyz......
tIll tOday tHe bEst oF sCience cAnnot Make a hUman bEing... aNd ALLAh cReated us wIthout a sample..........
tEll aNe sCientist to prePare they will Look fORsAmples to gEt ideas.......
jst think...
and gOd has cReAted us to oBey his oRders... not tO have fUn...
sPread his wOrd... hElp the pooorr....
BecOz aFter DEaTh wE hAve tO fAce him..........
tHat wIll bE dAy oF jUdgement....

Yes, we were single cell organism after a molecular 'soup' was heated up under constant UV, these single cell organisms start multiplying and mutated over millions of years to form new multi-cellular organisms which mutated randomly into what you see today.

That said, over billions of years, this planet has produced multi-cellular life! There are lab tests conducted to verify this. It's in our genes that we 'help' others. Because of evolutionary competition we face, we are helping ourselves by helping others.

DesiDude666
October 25th, 2008, 09:10 AM
well according to me god does exist but he is in a form of energy it is us who has given him the human form

Well, again it's a very abstract understanding. Physicians call God what they cannot theorize or explain. So, do you worship energy? What about asking this energy to grant you material wishes?!

Is it then 'God'? Must it be called an 'omni-scient' entity if it doesn't even have a brain? Like most mayavadhis represent their 'God'...!?

DesiDude666
October 25th, 2008, 09:17 AM
It is a question of belief...god is there for people who believe in god, in whatever form, shape or size...similarly, for atheists, god doesnt exist..its fair for people to respect the other persons viewpoint and not impose ones own beliefs

The idea here is that can you use terms as general as 'God'? While you are entitled to your faith, what about us? I am no atheist, more agnostic than atheist, but do you come to me and then start discussing 'God'? Well, firstly, it's the people with faith, 'God' is God for them, because of the baggage this term carries.

That said, when you call someone a 'God', we expect respect, we expect super powers, we expect creationism, we expect omni-presence, we expect omni-scient and a good truck load of assumptions - are these relevant to me?

Why not, for the Jews, you call your 'God' by his name "Yahweh" or another term, if you think it is disrespectful to call him that. For Christians, call him the Ghost or something, for Hindus, call him/them by their names? Buddhists have no 'God' since everything seems plagiarized from Hinduism - from Indra to Brahma.

So really, why use such terms that involve us all. It's your faith, it's your God, but the term 'God' is a little to big and involves other as well, you cannot claim the right to faith while undermining the rights of others to not to be involved in your faith! So limitations should be imposed, you have your rights and your right alone.

DesiDude666
October 25th, 2008, 09:25 AM
Natural Power or Super natural force is there for sure.

Somethng tht is driven by nature or natural forces. To that extent if someone gives the unexplained, unknown phenomena; territories for humans an universal name i.e GOD - nature is applauded.

Its more impt to abide by natures law to avoid any uncomforts.
Everything on this planet or universe is not explained, and that is where when human fails to comprehend things, they r thought as divine, in the name of God rather than nature n chapter closed.

its like the question Who came first anda or murgi?
and u go round n round, no one wud say that God came first here to give birth to either anda or murgi.

Even if that was thought then ther wud be immense competition amongst the Gods, as to who really first gave the anda or murgi??

u guys must hav heard What Birbals reply was when Akbar asked him when does a man get real relief? or 'aadmi ko sabse jyaada chain kab milta hain'?

Think, sory if anyones hurt..

Like Akbar didn't use religion to consolidate his power. His 'Zileh Ilahi' is exemplary of how religion is normally used. Like how the Buddhists used Kushans and Ashok for their evangelical escapades in the East! It's funny how Taoism, Shinto and even Indonesian Buddhism have conformed with Shakya Muni's 'teachings'!

I think if someone's educated and knowledgeable, he will not question the existence of divinity, but rather keep an open mind for it all. Richard Dawkins is only 6 on a scale of 10 for atheism because he is smart, and he is a scientist who knows that no evidence today doesn't mean no evidence tomorrow! We don't have all the answers. I am about 4-5 and we should be open.

It's all that trendy to be an atheist and start undermining everything - that's the new trend nowadays, the more disbelief, the better your image in the west. But don't be a disbeliever because it's trendy or because it seems as so, be a disbeliever because there is no evidence, and scrutinize evidence.

Remain open, not an open pot that has so much space for water (knowledge) but is kept upside down.

veeraa1729
October 25th, 2008, 10:09 AM
To discuss rational things, you could not find the end of the thread unless you realise which part of the thread you are holding on.
On religious thread, every body holds either one end believing the existence or the other end of the thread non believing. any person in the middle end up himself in the knot made by both the ppl in the extreme end of the thread.
On philosophical thread, every body goes in search of the thread or its length or dimension of thread rather than the question of why the thread is there.
On psycological thread, GOD concept gives one happy, sad, support and all the feeling. so everyone feel the touch of the thread.
On reasoning thread, GOD, Generator, Operator and Destroyer teaches the purpose of thread.
On socioal thread, everyone is bonded by the thread.
If you could understand this message, then your question is answered.
You can reach any end of the thread on your wish.

veeraa1729
October 25th, 2008, 10:11 AM
To discuss rational things, you could not find the end of the thread unless you realise which part of the thread you are holding on.
On religious thread, every body holds either one end believing the existence or the other end of the thread non believing. any person in the middle end up himself in the knot made by both the ppl in the extreme end of the thread.
On philosophical thread, every body goes in search of the thread or its length or dimension of thread rather than the question of why the thread is there.
On psycological thread, GOD concept gives one happy, sad, support and all the feeling. so everyone feel the touch of the thread.
On reasoning thread, GOD, Generator, Operator and Destroyer teaches the purpose of thread.
On socioal thread, everyone is bonded by the thread.
If you could understand this message, then your question is answered.
You can reach any end of the thread on your wish.

DesiDude666
October 26th, 2008, 07:38 AM
To discuss rational things, you could not find the end of the thread unless you realise which part of the thread you are holding on.
On religious thread, every body holds either one end believing the existence or the other end of the thread non believing. any person in the middle end up himself in the knot made by both the ppl in the extreme end of the thread.
On philosophical thread, every body goes in search of the thread or its length or dimension of thread rather than the question of why the thread is there.
On psycological thread, GOD concept gives one happy, sad, support and all the feeling. so everyone feel the touch of the thread.
On reasoning thread, GOD, Generator, Operator and Destroyer teaches the purpose of thread.
On socioal thread, everyone is bonded by the thread.
If you could understand this message, then your question is answered.
You can reach any end of the thread on your wish.

Not really no. There isn't a message at all. Unless you are trying to find a message, in which case, you should be able to find one everywhere - the strand of grass to that flange of baboons.

This thread does have an end - when we just stop believing that a couple of people are constantly looking at everything you do at every minute of the day and just waiting for your prayers to give you material wealth or grant your wishes. It also means that if there is a 'creator' - from what I see, he is just too smart for all of that too.

That said, it's either an agnostic number up there, or they just don't exist.

gaba
October 26th, 2008, 10:04 AM
i think God defntly exists.. there is no doubt about it..

Ami Kerung
November 5th, 2008, 10:58 PM
There is no answer for this ,.. so why waste time on it ?

melroy88
November 6th, 2008, 12:38 AM
There is no answer for this ,.. so why waste time on it ?

Why isnt there a answer? Or is there a answer onl 5 min before your exams when you make a prayer askin for your exams to go well, or when someone in the family is sick , everyone prays . There are times when we pray for miracles to happen ... WHY? When we are doing good in our life we feel that we are responsible for it , and thers no1 above looking at us, but in the contrary when we are in a tight spot...we only think of God.

Some may believe , some may not , Whats important is to lead a life of dignity , morale , and Humanity.
Give and treat other like you expect others to treat you.


Different religions have their own Gods and ways of worship , but the goal towards it is the same . Is to act human.
If someone needs help , we should help out . Cause one day we might be in the same shoes asking for help

If you sin you go to hell, if you do good then heaven .
Same implies by the law of karma.



Be the change to see the change

melroy88
November 6th, 2008, 12:42 AM
god exists as a mam-made creation:SugarwareZ-299:


MAAM .... Wow ... Do tell me which Maam ... I wuld luv to ask few questions... Lolz:focus:

melroy88
November 6th, 2008, 12:48 AM
I wont say GOD but i do believe that there is some Supreme Power which controls Living Beings.

I do not believe in Lord Ganesha or Indra etc. Having an Elephant's head etc is unrealistic and man made. I dont believe in lord Shiva or Rama etc etc. They are imaginations of humans.

U should be aware of Navaratri Upvaas and during that time, ppl cant wash their Hairs etc etc. Now you tell me, is there any Rule Book saying the above?? All this is man made imaginations.

But there were HUMANS, whom we say as Sai Baba or Jesus Christ. These were humans but with some grt qualities. They did some very good (good is an inferior word) deeds.

Now its prooven that there are no Witches or Ghosts. But there are souls (spirits) in some parts coz of some bad incidents with them.

Similarly, ppl see Sai Baba in Photo Frames suddenly or they see a Picture of Jesus BLEEDING. Yes it can be true as even their Souls would still be roaming.

U can say these are Grt Souls while many are Bad ones.


BUT IN LIFE REMEMBER 1 THING:-

Never harm any person physically or mentally intentionally. Never do some illegal work. You will always pay for your Bad Deeds in life indirectly. U may not realize it but u will pay for it someday.

Remember, its all upon your deeds. You do good to someone, you will get paid. I have seen that around me and i firmly believe that the Super Power above you is not watching how many times u chant his name. He watches you for how many times you do good to someone.

I never go to any Temple or Pray. But i still get helped by HIM everytime in trouble. Its all coz of Good Deeds.



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bambi
November 6th, 2008, 12:56 AM
well i think it lies in our perception....it is for us to choose.....it depends on person to person......n i dont think der s any point in talking about things we dont really understand.......

prasanth127
November 6th, 2008, 01:09 AM
GOD -- Exists.....you need a creator or you will juggle around the question ... Chicken or egg ..

melroy88
November 6th, 2008, 02:00 AM
well i think it lies in our perception....it is for us to choose.....it depends on person to person......n i dont think der s any point in talking about things we dont really understand.......



Dont understand what?

What god u pray to ? or what you pray?

sniperchd
November 6th, 2008, 02:21 AM
i believe god is just an expression created by humans, so help us through our tough times, abstain us from doing wrong!

alwaysniraj
November 6th, 2008, 09:12 AM
godddddddddddddddd does existssssssssssssssssssssssssss ....

veena krishnappa
November 6th, 2008, 10:11 AM
god exists he is not some one's creation but he/she is the faith that one has . They say for a drowning person a small stick can also be a life saver if he believes in it ....in the same way god is a hope and faith which gives people strength in difficult times.

anteshk
November 6th, 2008, 11:22 AM
there is some supreme power which governs the fate of everyone .we may name them by any sort of name . may it be god

rohit_pn
November 7th, 2008, 03:53 AM
Why I don't believe in God

It took me some time to clearly rationalise the reasons why I don't believe in God, but finally I came down to these:

1. I see absolutely no empirical or physical evidence for the existence of God. Suggestions such as "there must be a God because of the wonder of nature and the universe" are childishly stupid and don't stand up to even a moment of critical consideration. Many of the wonders of nature can be perfectly well explained through science - those that can't will be in time as our scientific knowledge expands.

2. On the contrary, I see much evidence for the non-existence of any God. The world is full of cruelty, poverty, disease and unhappiness, and I cannot accept that a loving and merciful God would allow this situation to exist.

3. I am unwilling to accept on blind faith what seem to me to be fantastic stories of long-ago events which were poorly documented many years after they supposedly happened. The Gospels were written 70 - 100 years after the supposed death of Jesus, in an age without newspapers, TV or computers, and with few written records. How can anyone give any credibility to stories written on the basis of such flimsy records?


Conclusion:
God doesnt exist. people already created illusion and asking to prove its not illusion. fact is not decided by majority.

Himanshu Prasad
November 7th, 2008, 06:10 AM
I believe the God does exist!
It is a force whom we can thank or blame when thinks go / not go as per our assumption.
It is a absolute truth in the darkness of lies and inconsitencies.
So rather than questioning the existence of GOD, He can made a unique answer to all unexplained queries.

Kavit Doshi
November 7th, 2008, 10:16 AM
God... What is GOD ?

Yes, someone callled Krishn existed. Someone called Ram , someone called Jesus, someone called Mohammad existed. And, they all did something great in their time so that they were hailed by the people of their time. And as time moved, their reputation and awareness spreaded (even when they were no more there), otherwise why do we stil know them?

But, Were they God....... What is GOD ?

Its doubtful that they could be considered as god. (If , god is someone who has magical powers)

(Totally personal opinion. No offense with anyone having different idea about god and would like to know them too!)

Regards

rahul140787@gmail.com
November 7th, 2008, 12:18 PM
for me i dont know wethwr he exists or not but yes somethings are beyond explanation and this what we name as god.:SugarwareZ-073:

khaitansaket
December 15th, 2008, 02:42 AM
very debatle questiuon actually it s ur belief and i think god is there and it help us

holgerlean
December 15th, 2008, 03:14 AM
hmmm:yield:
Does God exist or is he a man-made creation?
Does God exist or is he a man-made creation?
Does God exist or is he a man-made creation?
Does God exist or is he a man-made creation?
Does God exist or is he a man-made creation?
Does God exist or is he a man-made creation?
yes he does x 6

sindhut86@gmail.com
December 15th, 2008, 06:21 PM
if u want to know d answer for dis question....try observing urself...when u do something wrong or bad...u will hear a voice saying that u r doin wrong..that is ur conscience..anything u do that conscience warns u beore u do that work...that voice can be called as ur god....

Rahul Somani
December 15th, 2008, 06:43 PM
Every people has a diffrent perciption about this.
Because, in my point of GOD is nothing but the great people.
Many of us thinks that Our parents are god and some people think that Ram, Krishan are god.

But definetly there is akind of supreme power upon which we have belive and this power always support us .

nitin_sethi8
December 15th, 2008, 07:09 PM
i do agree wid u.god does exist in our belief,faith........

nilanadhi
December 15th, 2008, 07:23 PM
I believe in God and i have my own reservations for that matter. but i cannot argue about others beliefs. it depens on one's own attitude towards this.
but i strong object the VEDAS. i cannot accept those as a thing to be followed.. vedas are written for the "so called forward community", by the same "so called forward community". it should be noted that i dont criticize the bagavath geetha or bible or kuran.. they are valuable books.
Only with hinduism, God's avatar has come to earth. but with other religions, the people of refference are only messengers from God. so it depends on one's mentality, how he perceives these characters. but i believe in muruga,krishna, rama n all other Gods.

archana_shettigar
December 17th, 2008, 02:51 PM
I feel God .........does .....exists........at least ..by saying this.......it makes me ....... feel secure......

kamsydamsy
December 17th, 2008, 03:35 PM
god is very much exisiting & i think it exists in everybody.The very proof of existance of god...is...the...miracle of life & death.....we are still unable to understand it...why it happens so.....hence lakhs of people in india worship god...b'coz there is some omniscent & magnificent power which lies up there...which controls us.

akshaygawde88
December 17th, 2008, 09:20 PM
i think god exists....but many ppl wont agree to it...but i can narrate many incidents where i hav sensed his presence...

iitb_prateek
December 17th, 2008, 11:36 PM
i really think god is a man-made creation......they are created to make people follow a particular relogion and keep them socially engaged....so that our brutal government can keep doing its business of politicsand no men or women comes up with a critical thinking of it( the government).....

nischal
December 17th, 2008, 11:36 PM
it doesnt matter whether god exists or not...but when ur feeling really depressed or sad, atleast the thought that thr is some1 above u to take care f u is enough a motivation to keep u going ahead...widout god there is no hope and widout hope there is no man!!

kamsydamsy
December 18th, 2008, 09:14 AM
continuing yesterday's discussion...i again that god do exists...In small things if we see,we can feel him/Her....Once u experience hi/her bliss,u are totally in awe of it...mesmerised....by his love & affection.

yummy1984
December 18th, 2008, 02:34 PM
GOD is not man-made...people might think its just a human thought inorder to hav control on our conscious..but i think it is d governing body that helps us in our doings..it helps us to choose between right n wrong....i truly believe in GOD..

nilanadhi
December 18th, 2008, 04:18 PM
i would like to point out to Mr.Prateek that, god, may be in his point of view be man-made... but definitely not for political purposes.. there are many evidences to show us that ppl have started believing in god before civilizations, before any govt came in2 existance..

Anisha neog
December 19th, 2008, 11:53 AM
Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss, god exist

Sam_dreaming_big
December 19th, 2008, 06:07 PM
I dont beleive in the human form given to God by man. For me God is only a power who shows us the right path and gives positive motivation to us.

amrish.patel
December 20th, 2008, 01:37 PM
Yes, although I am MBA but believes in GOD. whenever i want something from him, he provides me

sindhut86@gmail.com
December 20th, 2008, 06:37 PM
nything you believe in is god...god may not be only someone who keeps track of everythng in d universe god is trust,belief,faith,love ur confidence etc....so alwaz suppose god to be as strength and energy which gives us d confidence to live our lives and go ahead....

kamsydamsy
December 20th, 2008, 10:22 PM
hi all
As i have already mentioned that i do believe god exist...but i also delieve that god is one....& this we have proved when india faced the turmoil of terror attacks ,everyone got united....no barriers of caste,creed or age..THey were equal...& this is what god teaches us.

kannan921
December 26th, 2008, 01:56 PM
Der r so many unsolved mysteries in dis world,the answers 2 which is not available even with science.....so till v find answers 2 those question,i wud like 2 believe dat God does exist.

GOD exists wheather we believe in HIM/HER or not. solving those mysteries doesn't deny HIS/HER existence. because science can explain any event in the universe. science is pure and elegant. so is GOD. it is the scientific people's understanding and interpretation changes.

rounak_jain1985
January 20th, 2009, 07:06 PM
do you people really think that god does exist . i dont think that god does exist as a separate identity .its just we humans who created them so that we have someone to believe in when we are alone and human wanted some supreme power to keep check on our deeds as humans have tendency of getting complasaint if there is no supreme power to keep check . god is nothing but just our own concious .if we really think deeply an identify ourself then every human has god in himself . god doesnt say that u must do this or that its just our concious which tells us what is right for that particular situation and wrong for that situation. if god should havebeen there then there should be one god not many .these religions are there to get identity and importance over another religion is human made thus every religion has different god and howz that possible . so god is man made but our concious is real supreme power so believe in that not some idol.

AV0211
January 20th, 2009, 10:52 PM
I think .. If god is there then he will be in each other...
So respect each and every human being...

ashvin_1
January 21st, 2009, 10:04 AM
Certainly God is there..When we see some politician our faith become more strong in god......

Kavit Doshi
January 21st, 2009, 10:35 AM
No.. god doesnt.......

But when science fails to explain something.. 'god' comes to help

dextervaz
January 21st, 2009, 10:57 AM
Whether he exists or not, i think every little kid should be made to believe and revere God no matter which religion it is.
It helps instill certain values and morals in the child.

gaurav_41283
January 30th, 2009, 04:40 PM
god exist but only in minds of the people
in reality there is no god
but he provide us the moral support that we need in pain

madronny
February 5th, 2009, 05:11 PM
Der r so many unsolved mysteries in dis world,the answers 2 which is not available even with science.....so till v find answers 2 those question,i wud like 2 believe dat God does exist.

ambar035
February 6th, 2009, 09:31 AM
god is definately a man made creation though we believe there exist god and the only reason for that, is to keep ourselves chest and holy. we keep him as a last option in time of need and if we succeed we feel him responsible for the success and if something goes wrong we blame ourselves for the same. so it can be said that god is totally man made. Everyone has his own god which depends on his thinking and perception.

Dharini
February 6th, 2009, 10:53 AM
Yes, i do agree with Neel and Shlshgaikwaad. Any living being always needs some form of guidance to walk thru life. No one can walk blind in life. Even a blind person needs a stick or atleast his hands to handle d obstacles that comes on his ways.This guidance is the Supreme Power. This Power has taken various forms like Rama and Shiva for hindus,Prophet Mohammed for muslims and as Jesus Christ for the Christians. I believe,various Gods are just conversions of the same super natural power.

If mankind believes in this fact,there would not be any riots on religious issues. It s not about if God is man-made or naturally originated,it is the trust that you have on HIM brings you the fruits of life.Trust God completely,you will start loving your fellow-beings.

anyzen
March 30th, 2009, 05:43 PM
This is my view about GOD.

GOD is the word used to describe about a person who has many superior qualities.

GOD is just like ours, and every one can become GOD.

Every Living beings is having Some electro magnetic field around its outer surface.
The Electro magnetic waves can be used for many number of purpose from medical to defence. You can attack a person, you can heal a person, you can fly, you can be invisible.
This electromagnetic field around the body of normal human being can be increased by meditation, yogas, etc.

Buddha, Jesus, Krishna, Siva, etc are shown with some lights in the background.
Where these lights came from, The answer is electromagnetic field.

These lights are called as auroras, Every person has some auroras. The intensity of electro mangetic field can give lot of superior qualities like The GOD.

Every GOD has history and epic which says the lived in Earth, Only thing the epics forget to say, is how every one can become GOD.

So GOD exist in everyone.
If u increase Electromagnetic field around u.

There are some instrument exist to view auroras around any object.
and research also done on these subjects.

GOD is not the Man made. It is the Man

janani d
March 30th, 2009, 09:10 PM
This is a question which never had an answer.. Good people with extra ordinary skills and power are born in every century.. They are admired by the contemporaries and become god after many generations.. Who knows Gandhiji can be one of the future gods..Nobody in this world can claim that they have seen god.. But this doesn't mean that god does not exist.. Though we talk abt evolution and all other scientific stuff few mysteries remain unanswered..
It is true that there is a super natural power that controls the earth.. We believe it is god.......

rachitchaudhary
March 31st, 2009, 02:58 AM
i think what vkombissan has said is completely true...........that was the nice one....

bharatr05
March 31st, 2009, 11:50 PM
I am extremely happy that our generation has touched upon this wonderful topic. In the fast changing times of today, we need to reflect on our lives and our existence. We need to find solace beyond our lives, and that solace can be found in GOD.

I never for one second stop thinking about our existence, why are we here, in such a lonely universe. Can anyone think for a second, what we are and what we are doing here.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT -
PROOF OF GOD - Ok so everyone knows the universe, we know it is ever expanding, can you tell me what is BEYOND the universe? More matter right, doesnt it strike you odd of what are the possibilities?
PROOF 2 - Why are we such perfect beings who can accomplish so many things, where as no such intellligent life form has been found in this universe so far.

GOD has made such a precise and wonderful world that we almost believe that he didnt create us. WHAT you want GOD to create us and say that "I created you, you belong to me?" You think GOD is egotistical? We are all his children, whether you believe in him or dont, he will take care of you. Just be a good human being in life and follow religious traditions, especially hindu tradtions. We are really lucky to be born in India, I believe in Hinduism and the power of mantras, poojas, and everything else. I could go on and on and if someone wants to contact me, please, I can have a special discussion on this.

anshuman_4
April 1st, 2009, 05:19 PM
Some one once said " An honest man is the best creation of God" ... to this another person said " Anhonest God is the best creation of man"

.... the concept of God has a primitive origin , when the man was not as developed mentally .......research confirms that our brain has increased 3 time in past 1 lac yrs ....... human civilization started showing up some 10000 ys bak ... so wat wud b the size of the brain of a man 10000 yrs bak ... x-x/30 ... x= size of the man's brain in present world .... now shud v believe in the ideas of men whose brain's size was 29/30 of our size .... i dont think so .......so that proves that the concept of God is an outdated one ..... besides ppl who r too busy wid how to keep the wheels of life moving smoothly hardly hav ny time to ruminate on ideas which will not lubricate those wheels ...... i think i hav clarified my point .

rohitmohod1986
April 2nd, 2009, 12:34 AM
well,,,personally i dnt believe in god,,,and i dnt think that god exist,,,,god is that image with whom human being share its happiness and sorrows,,,we human being need someone to whom we can blame if misdeed committed by us,,,still i think we need such image in life,,,,isnt it?

parv
April 7th, 2009, 10:06 AM
hiya[:)]
Existence of God is a man-made creation and it is a belief of majority of people that God exists.
God is within YOU and ME. God is within Us.
There is no perfect physical appearance of God that HE should look as it has been picturised in movies or books.
It is the mind of the person who draws the picture of God according to his thoughts, feelings, emotions and mindset.
When a person is happy with his life, he forgets that there is God and is contented with himself.
But when a person is sad in his life, he feels the presence of God and has conversation with him to help him out of his problems.
So here it solely depends on the man who creates the existence of God or not.
Hence, I believe that it is a man-made creation that God exists as a Supreme Power.
Sayonara[:)]

Kelvin Sovi
April 7th, 2009, 10:23 AM
Interestingly, when you read the Bible, God does not try to prove that He exists. It is expected that men and women, in their conscious, will be aware of the existence of their creator. Anything that is of man's imagination, can not be God. That which can not save a man from trouble, that which a man can run away with when being pursued , can not be said to be God. Jesus' claim for deity is clearly substantiated: He rose from the dead, He is alive, He created the world and He has promised to come back again!

anu60
April 7th, 2009, 10:42 AM
Yes, the god exists. But it is wrong to say it like this. The correct way is to say that the existence is god. meaning thereby that there is nothing except god. But we can not explain it in words, though we can feel. Please think can you explain the taste of some thing say a mango to a person who has never tasted a mango. The taste of mango can not be explained through words. The taste can be known only by tasting it. Similarly god can be realised only, it can not be explained. So do not try to understand it. Just feel anything like a flower, like sky, like anything. But beware while feeling anything of existence you should not have any thought within you then and only then you can realise the god.

dhakkan
April 7th, 2009, 12:20 PM
God or Fate whatever u want to name it.I think that the word god makes us weak in the knees to bow down and ask for his/her help.

If god cant alter what is fate? then the relevance of god according to me is baseless, rather the human spirit the fighting force holds much more relevance.

If u know that u r going to fight a strong enemy and defeat is imminent then atleast make him/her realize that u were also a tough nut!

jyotika.s
April 7th, 2009, 12:31 PM
I dont knw wheather god exists or not but i knew onething tht...remembering god in tough time gives me strength nd confidence to face tht situation in better way...

mvenkat3272
April 7th, 2009, 02:32 PM
God exists within ourself.It is because we are so involved in other things that we fail to see the god inside us.

ankitdgreat
April 7th, 2009, 03:05 PM
Of course God exists. Who do you think is responsible for all the bad things happening around the world?

rcrochar
April 7th, 2009, 06:42 PM
I had a notion that somehow, besides questioning, I was being pursued.

anoop489
April 7th, 2009, 07:37 PM
i belive in god.hmmm let me think for a while first.......................

ashpt33
April 15th, 2009, 12:20 AM
dont knw.............................................................

neha20092009
May 11th, 2009, 11:30 PM
i think that there are many ways to look at the subject but I think that there had to be some kind of external force that cause the "big bang".

negivijay
May 29th, 2009, 03:39 PM
First of all we need to understand that we dont have any specific definition of GOD, so how will we notice that God exists or not?
Another way we can see that not even a single body part is useless, so who made us in such a perfection that even lines within our hands tells our past & future.
We all have inner voice that guide us what is right or wrong; untill we supress our own internal voice.
I strongly feel that there is a supreme power who is governing all this.
Whole thing that we can see is like a video game & we are its characters.
One who is playing this (it can be we ourselves also) plays this character in many different modes like sometime very rich, sometime very poor, sometime powerful etc. This game has its rules, characters are somehow related to, or affected by what they were in their previous instance (life). One can also play character of animals. Once the player satisfies that YES now I have played almost all modes & dont wanna play more then only he frees himself from this game.
Within this place only there may be another system that we might not be aware of, night may be for ghosts, souls and other powers; that might be totally different system that we are not aware of.
There are so many things that we cant ignore; simply think where we go after death?
If we think about this we might feel what the hell we are doing running fast in our life earning money, doing this-doing that, when we even dont know what happens after death? what for we are doing all this? Is this the real motto for why we are here?
Just live & enjoy the luxuries of the life. OR this is just one character coz other are somany around us who are suffering with all the sorrow & tensions & fears. So what actually is the fact? Why we are here? I think this is the big question to understand that what is the UNIVERSAL TRUTH OF THIS LIFE?
Once we get this we will understand all of the question related to GOD also.

ajaydas
May 29th, 2009, 03:56 PM
yes u guys are right, i agree with neel completely.i was quite skeptic in the past but there were so many serious coincidences in my life which when i ponder upon i camt to know about existance of god. and yes thats right. we r paid for our deeds so we should act in such a way to not harm anybody.in fact i do think for those who dont think that god exists just imagine the world without a slight hint of god.they will come to know about it.from my experience i can say that unless one stumbles upon the road one may never care about the pitfalls.

priyankappd
May 29th, 2009, 10:05 PM
IN THIS world everybody is puzzled about the creation of humanity. Some people believe in the existence of the God and some don’t. Some people search for eternal peace through the beliefs in God, but this is an impossible belief because of the chances the plausibility and because science is yet to prove it.

Five ways of proving which proves God’s existence are – argument from motion, efficient cause, possibility and necessity, the gradation to be found in things and the governance of the world.

Assuming that if the universe is randomly formed and there appears to be no design, the theist still believes there is hope within the cosmological arguments of Plato. His argument is based on the obvious. Everyday we observe things moving. Whatever moves is either moved by another or is self-moved. If a thing is self moved it must be eternal. In this argument for being a first cause, this self-mover is God.

:SugarwareZ-299:

nallanaal
May 30th, 2009, 11:33 AM
G - GOOD
O - ON
D - DUTY
A person who is good in performing his duty is considered as god...
so god exist in every one who perform their duty....

pikul3487
May 30th, 2009, 12:51 PM
Yes of course God exits,but not physically.She/He is rather present in our hearts or in our mind.In this way it may be called that God is a man made creation.When there is hard work ,humanity and a jill to live and let other live peacefully.Then there is God.:SugarwareZ-266:

pikul3487
May 30th, 2009, 12:52 PM
HI all

God tussi great ho.God is great. God is always there to help people......

atheist
May 30th, 2009, 02:08 PM
Does God exist or is he a man-made creation?


pour wat u think here abt this topic?????????

if u believe than it exist ..if u don't believe than it don't exist

shubham_er
May 30th, 2009, 02:41 PM
GOD do exist and those who feels NO, GOD help them really... what i feel in my heart and soul is that GOD is around us helping us all the times in our needs and letting us do the right work!! He has the power!!!

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manojgaud.mba
May 30th, 2009, 09:50 PM
there is only one answer and that is "YES" god is there

somiyathacker
May 31st, 2009, 08:09 PM
Hi! i must appreciate ur topic for debate. what i believe is god is there.

hateemchohan
June 1st, 2009, 11:32 AM
i would say only one thing..... just look into ur heart and ask ur self..... u will find the answer |( only if u want to)

ssharekrishna
June 1st, 2009, 12:19 PM
[QUOTE=sweta_agg79;118715]No, i dont agree.. God is not man-made..

hmmmm.....

sabir.sarwar
June 1st, 2009, 12:22 PM
God Does exists and it is not at all man made creation and i also believe in life after death .

PsychoSurd
June 2nd, 2009, 02:32 PM
I don't think so. I think you can either believe in God or in Mathematics/Science. Science has not yet been able to prove the existence of God, and therefore, till then, I shall not believe that he does exist. But this is my personal opinion.

mahakmm
June 2nd, 2009, 08:58 PM
yes , he surely does exit! for me he is omnipresent!!!

shivatkp
June 3rd, 2009, 02:23 AM
deepak wrote://what about the Vedas,Puranas,Quran and Bible.Do they all man-made?I don't think so.Why should man make all these things?Moreover all these things didn't happen on the same time period.It happened on different time periods.So I don't think they are all man-made//

guys read the veda's properly or ask the genuine guys. It clearly says two things" Paramathma and jeevaathma which is the core of humans and resides within ourselves. The more you purify yourselves with the deeds, you travel towards paramaathma. Do good to the society- before you purify yourself

dhanwadeadi
June 3rd, 2009, 11:58 AM
god exits everywhere some peoples thinks that god is not exists but at last moment of live everyone prays to god for his life.

disha doshi
June 3rd, 2009, 03:51 PM
god is may b everywhere but before that he is inside us
if we all start thinking good for each other n start helping everyone with out any selffishness,n giving n taking trust then he is always with us inside our heart n soul

rkr43
June 8th, 2009, 12:20 PM
I think there is some creator.. otherwise from all this matter...it cann't come from vaccum!! The variations in GOD is man made but I think GOD as per exists.

jamesprx
June 8th, 2009, 12:30 PM
I have full faith in God. He is around us always.

Parimal Parag
June 8th, 2009, 05:39 PM
Well there is no denying the fact that god do exists.There is some supernatural power around which this world oscillates.God is an unutterable sigh, planted in the depths of the soul.God can never be a definition.He is more than even the entirety of the dictionary.

An Atheist is one who does`t believes in god,that means he does`t belives in himself for sure.
All that is real in you is God; all that is real in God is you. The gulf between God and you is thus bridged. Thus by knowing God, we find that the kingdom of heaven is within us.

akbaree
June 8th, 2009, 09:38 PM
god is may b everywhere but before that he is inside us
if we all start thinking good for each other n start helping everyone with out any selffishness,n giving n taking trust then he is always with us inside our heart n soul

Very well said Disha.

If anyone is out to find God or has doubts about God's presence, I feel, the most important thing is to look within and then look around.

ruckfules
June 9th, 2009, 01:23 AM
we all hv to agree to the fact wether we believe in it or not that sum supernatural power exists around us.n that is what we have termed as god.

SAURABH SAXENA
June 10th, 2009, 04:06 AM
well i believe that there is some positive energy which always play its role which we call GOD and to balance the equation there has to be a negative energy THE EVIL. what we have done is, given a shape, a face so that we humans are attached to it in more affectionate way (which is our tendency). we have idolized it. And i do believe in that ENERGY, call it by any name that hardly matters to me.

savio13
June 10th, 2009, 02:39 PM
Does God exist or is he a man-made creation?


pour wat u think here abt this topic?????????

God exists absolutely... He is all around us and can be felt through the forces of nature...
The people we meet are creations of God... God speaks through them to us in different ways...

The events and occurrences that take place in our lives are directed by God himself...

He is the Director and we are the actors... If we play our roles according to what's planned, then only we can find consistency, peace, tranquility, in our work and our daily lives....

ronak1
June 10th, 2009, 02:59 PM
Once any one reads the Ramayana & Mahabharata. he will start believing that god exists. Indian scriptures clearly describes god does exists. It is only in once belief that god will exist or not.

ridhima
July 9th, 2009, 08:33 AM
Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.
Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Prof: Yes.
Student: And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes...
Student: No sir. There isn't. (The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student: : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold . Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it .

(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)
Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?
Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light.....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?
Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor.Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)
Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

(The class is in uproar.)
Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain? (The class breaks out into laughter.)
Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain,sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable. )
Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
Student: That is it sir... The link between man & God is FAITH . That is all that keeps things moving & alive...


NB: I believe you have enjoyed the conversation. ..and if so...you'll probably want your friends/colleagues to enjoy the same...won't you?.... this is a true story, and the student was none other than........ ..



APJ Abdul Kalam , the former president of India ..

jayesh bhanushali
July 9th, 2009, 11:51 AM
yeahhhh GOD reallyy exists
i believe it toooo

rajatkiran
July 9th, 2009, 11:55 AM
I don't think that the God exists,it's just a man-made creation,as till now its presence wasn't being proven.

ridhima
July 10th, 2009, 07:45 AM
but there are certain factrs supporting the fact that God exists (in my previous post) so cn u back ur statement with sum too???

ridhima
July 10th, 2009, 07:49 AM
certain facts* ..........................................................................................................

manisagupta
July 10th, 2009, 10:08 AM
Yes, I am 100 % sure that God is there. He exist every where and all our actions are directed by him only.

kotamani2003
July 10th, 2009, 10:47 AM
that depends on purely on our attitude and perception.if you have faith and belief in him he is there if you dont have he is not there. ifeel he is there and he comes front to us when we are in problems and goes back when we are happy.

rj031086
July 10th, 2009, 11:00 AM
it do exist...thrs is a supremem power which is controlling entire world n universe around us. People name it GOD.

harsha007
July 10th, 2009, 12:37 PM
even i agree with deepak that GOD does exists. he is in our mind and it depends upon how we all believe in him. i do believe

hansita
July 10th, 2009, 12:41 PM
i agree with neel completely.i was quite skeptic in the past but there were so many serious coincidences in my life which when i ponder upon i camt to know about existance of god. and yes thats right. we r paid for our deeds so we should act in such a way to not harm anybody.in fact i do think for those who dont think that god exists just imagine the world without a slight hint of god.they will come to know about it.from my experience i can say that unless one stumbles upon the road one may never care about the pitfalls.
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i agree with neel completely.i was quite skeptic in the past but there were so many serious coincidences in my life which when i ponder upon i camt to know about existance of god. and yes thats right. we r paid for our deeds so we should act in such a way to not harm anybody.in fact i do think for those who dont think that god exists just imagine the world without a slight hint of god.they will come to know about it.from my experience i can say that unless one stumbles upon the road one may never care about the pitfalls.

km_modak
July 10th, 2009, 05:09 PM
i don't think that god is a man made creation because there are many things which prove the existance of god.

It depends on every individual 's perception...if i believe god is there i can feel his existance and vice-versa.

sunnysgr8
July 10th, 2009, 05:31 PM
I defenetly n personally feel that God exists...its not a man made concept...we humans with our limited brain are failing even to analyse the universe...i think this debate has started off pretty sooon...this should be debated when humans can crack DEATH....which all are afraid of...if we can understand the concept of LIFE and DEATH...i think we are indirectly believing in God... so, all i can say is that i love to believe that God exists....

jenell
July 10th, 2009, 07:22 PM
OF COURSE GOD EXISTS!!!
how can you'll even debate on something???

GOSH! How do you explain the galaxy, nature, human life cylcle, animals, and everything else????
How do you explain the miracles??

mvm_rocks@yahoo.co.in
July 10th, 2009, 08:15 PM
God really exists.thats the reason he created everything so beautiful.

kaspal
July 10th, 2009, 08:51 PM
Yes he/she exists as per me but it depends upon how u want to debate upon this

maheshdoijode
July 10th, 2009, 09:22 PM
i too think sameeeeee, There exicsts god and we should respect this fact , and leave the ppl who donot respect god, and its nature and hids pressence etc


No, i dont agree.. God is not man-made..

They exist in our beliefs, in our thoughts... basically they lies in our deeds... which provide us the way and direction in life to move ahead...

Sweta

lacoste101
July 10th, 2009, 11:44 PM
...There must be smthng or someone that started the universe ,like trillion years Ago.....:SugarwareZ-196:

ishu44
July 11th, 2009, 01:05 PM
in my opinion there is some super power ruling us

A. Sehgal
July 11th, 2009, 01:27 PM
I think God exists very much. All the religions preech the same. There is an universal power guiding and showing the path to each and every individual.

rajesh4bnl
July 11th, 2009, 02:17 PM
hi,
i dont think that here in this world god or anything such like this this is only a man made creation because i dont belive on which i have never seen

garimaangel
July 12th, 2009, 12:43 PM
i too believe that god exists though in our minds. anything we can't explain ourselves is left to God to handle. God or "parmatma" is the ideal human who knows everything.

jigar pobari
July 12th, 2009, 12:44 PM
yes the god exist .........
there are many things which suggest this thing abt god .....
from where does it exist like rain , etc

Pravesh_1086
July 12th, 2009, 12:56 PM
I feel god is man made creation.to divert focus from problems n bad times,we pray,we think abt god.there is no supreme personality like god.But yeah..human being is one of divine n supreme species which can elevate from noral individual by his actions,his great work,contribution to people at large

pravz
July 12th, 2009, 06:57 PM
i think god exists...had some personal experiences

Satyendr07
July 12th, 2009, 09:56 PM
God is Only the Reality & Everything. :)

alomaria
July 13th, 2009, 01:24 AM
Very good question, Does God exists!!
I reply by a story happened to one of the scholars about 1200 years ago who was asked this question by a man next to the river in Baghdad, Iraq? long story but nice read till end..
to answer this question the scholar gave appointment to the man who asked the question at noon of the next day next to the river. The man came at noon but the scholar didn't come until 1 or 2 hours later. when the man asked the scholar about his late arrival, the scholar told him that he was on the other bank of the river and didn't find a ship to bring him, he waited long then suddenly one empty ship ( no one is driving it ) came to the bank, stopped at the bank for him to step in, he went onboard, the ship sailed in the river ( without any control by any one), the ship came to the other bank of the river and stopped there so the scholar could step out of the ship to come to his appointment. The man immediately shouted are you crazy? how can a ship comes without a sailor, stop for you, sail back to here without any controller. Actually the scholar was waiting this answer and told the man if you can't believe that it is impossible for a ship without a sailor can do this, how you would believe that all this universe runs in this accuracy by itself without a controller (GOD)? May be this scholar before 1200 years didn't know small part about of any of us know now about the accuracy of the solar system, Water and rain cycle, the complexity of our bodies, brains, the system in the atom itself. can we imagine all this runs by itself without having a controller called GOD??

harshdeep.dhillon
July 13th, 2009, 01:34 AM
Does God exist or is he a man-made creation?


pour wat u think here abt this topic?????????

Welll yes the god exits for sure as we need to have some believes in ethics as they are not false if in some time the topic comes that did any thing existed 1000 years ago but we have our ethics that yes it existed so according to me yes god exsisted

sath
July 13th, 2009, 09:00 AM
yes god definitely does exist !but i think he has no image or form or name !he is just a supernatural power !

ridhima
July 14th, 2009, 07:58 AM
God is evrywhere, wherever we feel like....

he is not a man-made creation, we all are God made creation

and if u wont believe on what u hadnt nvr seens...
so have u ever been to Paris,London, China, Japan etc.. or have u ever seen Air?? does it mean that all these things dont exist???

matt8pie
July 14th, 2009, 09:17 AM
sure thing, everyone's got their own opinion but i think he does.

manu69
July 14th, 2009, 10:33 AM
i think if one belives in unnaturals ,sixth senseetc god does exist for us.he is there to be felt and not seen.

sathya120133
July 14th, 2009, 10:37 AM
i beleive god exists in its powerful form.the argument one might have is then show me.Any person who heelps on at a time of need withoout being asked is god and i beleive there is super natural power which in lingering around us wether we know it or not and that power is god

angeprince28
July 19th, 2009, 09:16 AM
God exists everywhere.. He is a super natural power who takes care of us from above..

Aneha
July 19th, 2009, 10:20 AM
Yes i belive in God very much.There is proof of his existence or atleast of his messengers.There is a force that guides us and I always get the feeling that there is somethingsomeone out there much bigger and stronger than all of us who plans our every move and has the key toour future.

gpriyankag
July 20th, 2009, 12:09 PM
ask your heart and u would know the answer. god exist or not is not an issue its faith that makes a stone a religious deity. so learn to believe in things and u would see god inside u.

vrprsd
July 20th, 2009, 06:09 PM
hi friends,

who r u?
what is ur language?
how u r speaking?
how u undersatand the language?
How u r seeing?
who give u eyes?
How u r walking?
who gives the legs to every one?
why sea water is slaty?
how the nature is so beautiful?
who created that?
......
.....
.....
so many questions are there

the technology behind the above questions is a unknown power that is GOD.

some body saying GOD is not there, they are simply....

aditya singh83
July 20th, 2009, 07:52 PM
yes ,the god exits in the world because there r many miracle in the world that can not explained scirntifically

Harbir
July 20th, 2009, 08:22 PM
I believe God is man made.. but the whole world is mathematical.. be good keep a good "goodness" bank balance and good happens to u..

ravilman
July 21st, 2009, 11:17 AM
Dear All,

The question is about the existance of god, i think by talking about deeds and other things we are deviating from the topic. As some of our other friends had mentioned, yes there is a super natural power that does influence some of our aspects of our daily life. There is going to be one master aspect of our life which is controlled by this supernatural power which paves the way for the subsequent events. Very simply said, we have all learnt that, Mass and energy are interconvertible and they dont get lost. They keep happening in cycles. But ofcourse there has to be some source initially which would have caused the creation of either of these 2. As we all agree, there are so many things in our daily life that is not interpreted by our limited knowledge. For example "Dream". No science has so far been able to explain this in a concrete manner as to y this happens. All of us would have atleast once in our life times experienced a situation in which we would have dreamt of something that would have later occured in our life. We are unable to explain this. But this is something that we live everyday. Naturally someone has created this. Men from the time known, anything unknown is being worshipped either as divine or as evil. I would like to term the supernatural power as god. Those who question the existence of god, will have to remember him atleast once in his life time.

vny.mendon
July 21st, 2009, 12:13 PM
i do think tat gos is the man made creation

b coz the formation of the earth was an accident

prabodhmohan
July 21st, 2009, 01:40 PM
God is not a man made creation and god does exist. God is the super power who controls all the living beings.

shettydattatray
July 21st, 2009, 07:33 PM
One of our favourite questions this one aint it?
Does god exist? Does he not? If he does then how old is he? Is there a greater god who created him? Or may be two gods, a father god, a mother god for our very own son of god god? Is he managing the world properly?(by the sight of it,it does'nt seem so.there is no proper MANAGEMENTin his PARADISE unlike our MANAGEMENT PARADISE). But to cut the crap short i'll like to talk about something more important, the question that should be our sole mission in life. I put it down in a few amateur(did i spell it right) poetic words.

I'VE GOT NO WISH TO OWN THE LAND
I'VE GOT NO WISH TO MASTER THE SKY
JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY AM I HERE
WHY AM I HERE AND WHO AM I

And by the way i've got a better question. why is god a he and why not a she? what is this thing about the gender of god?

Now coming to the question DOES GOD EXIST OR IS HE A MAN-MADE CREATION i just have to say this:
a) Whether god exists or not he definately doesn't have a gender(did i just use ''HE'' myself ?)
b) Yes the ''HE'' is definately a man-made creation.

chadha.hitesh
July 21st, 2009, 08:04 PM
YE si do belive god exsists

thanks fo rthe is

amit_singhal
July 23rd, 2009, 08:59 PM
I don't believe tht anybody can even think tht God is man-made when we have so many evidences for the same. Rather we should say tht God made man.

lajaka
July 23rd, 2009, 09:57 PM
God, as perceived by masses is definitely a man made creation. The philosophical aspect of God's existence is a matter of ones own beliefs and perceptions and has got nothing to do with day to day rituals in places of worship. In a country like ours, the existence of God is used more to serve the interests of a section of people who exploit the poor and the ignorant.

Akshay Kapoor
July 23rd, 2009, 11:11 PM
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vish25
July 24th, 2009, 11:21 AM
i strongly agree tht god exists.............
@<hidden> shlshgaikwad , same with me , me to had so many coincidences in my life.......

god is a guiding light to me, i feel him walk with me on my troubled paths as well in my success.....
faith is powerful thing it can work wonders......................

keep believing ppl..........

regards ,
vaishal
i:SugarwareZ-124:

kaustubh4
July 24th, 2009, 04:08 PM
no i dont think god exist. some other power maybe what we believe either. if thats true, then god. if there is god why do we have different religions, its all man made.

Ankita2
July 24th, 2009, 07:42 PM
God is not a man made creation.It is he who always guides us in all phases of our life.

janus
July 24th, 2009, 11:47 PM
i believe god exist..
cos he has done wonders in my life and at the same time he has shown me the way wen i was wrong and i feel that its a wrong question to put forth...
i mean its so silly to question the existence of god.....
i feel these are the kind of people who are not happy in life and have faced hardship in life and therefore conclude that god does nt exist....
god is very much there and one must knw that god gives us pain so that we remember him and praise him as well wen we are in trouble..god waits for conversation with us....
please guys neva question the existence of almighty cos it is for him that we are
here on this earth..
thanks.

jyin
July 25th, 2009, 12:51 PM
i think it depends on one perception. Since currently there is no scientific evidence that God does exists. Everyone have their own views on on the existence of God.

singhrapper
July 29th, 2009, 11:31 AM
its just some kinda super natural power ,, yes god do exist but dont knw in what form

navendusharma
July 29th, 2009, 11:58 AM
God does exist and he is a man made creation too.

What is unknown, unexplained by science is governed by God. It is a means to help us delve deeper into the realms of science, spirituality.

What is beyond galaxy- universe, beyond that is some other formation which is still unknown. What is smaller than atom- maybe micron... and smaller than that uis still unknown. Where man's imagination or his thirst to explain stops, God is a covenient logic. Having faith in the unknown is important for a common man to progress in life. That is what I feel. Comments are welcome.

sudarshan.dh
July 29th, 2009, 12:23 PM
yes - god is there -- or else how on earth have created such complicated things.

m7_malik
July 29th, 2009, 12:56 PM
yesssssssssssss......., God is inb/w me. rather it is inside everybody. so try to find out with the help of self concentration.
good luck>>........

archana.sharma1402
July 29th, 2009, 03:13 PM
Even if God didnt existed... it was necessary to create GOD... else how do we answer all those unresolved mysteries of this world...... And even if God is a man-made creation...atleast we have a hope to hold on to when everything is not going our way.....

abhissim
July 29th, 2009, 04:01 PM
yes, i believ . god exists.. the supernatural who is controlling all the activities which we perform....can u give me simple answer who dont believe in GOD? if there is no heart beat in human's herat, what happens, where he goes? ....
you are going home you meet with an accedent, even you were right on path, you get 1 cror property of someone's bills whom you met once..even you dint do anything to earn that........

blossomsky2009
July 29th, 2009, 04:27 PM
God surely exists or we wouldnt have been here!

raptor84
July 29th, 2009, 05:00 PM
I dont believe God exist, its matter of psychological and social phenomenon that has been routed into our lives with year and years of hammering. When man in his primal days could not evaluate or justify the nature or existance of few things , he justified them as supernatural power.
I do not think by beliefs should be concluded there exist something because we cannot justify it, ramayana and other epics could only be creation of human beings, why else god has two hands and he look like a human.
A motivated and focused being can do equally better as to a man believing supreme powers.
The people who are called prophet or so were indeed human with urge to consolidate the human society for better collaboration and harmony.
I feel what is better and near perfect but human is GOD and not some supreme ..supernatural power.

tkp
July 29th, 2009, 06:27 PM
First we need to understand what we understand by god. Then we can debate on this topic. The difference between a dead & alive person is the soul which makes us living thing. This soul is called god, allah, whatever name you call. Therefore you can not question the existance of god as it is the soul & exist in all the living being.This the supernatural power. In order to control it we worship, meditate & follow different paths in life . Different religious cult follow different procedure . But the soul is same be it any living being. Only in human body we can get god . The union of paramatma & jivatma is reunion with god although both are forms of God only. Hope the issue is clear

aparajitaanand
July 29th, 2009, 07:37 PM
well i dont think god exists............... if we follow history god can only be verified AS A BRAND

deepesh412
July 30th, 2009, 12:38 AM
God is Man-made.

Had God been there, we would have rather prayed than worked hard.

And if God is there, then there is also Satan. There is also the 7 Sin theory.
So.... to be frank, it is rather superstitious. And it is one's efforts that matter.

There is fate or destiny.... but that has nothing to do with god.

varunthevampire
July 30th, 2009, 01:39 AM
GOD does exists...................................................................

Rafick
July 30th, 2009, 09:07 PM
god exist for sure and there is no doubt about it....... its all about your faith

sakshi.asthana
August 2nd, 2009, 08:01 AM
God is the source of existence... there is no question of whether he exists or not...

Biggboss
August 2nd, 2009, 08:13 AM
only bigg boss exist............................................................................................

greatdude10
August 2nd, 2009, 10:28 PM
God does exist, coz many things explained by man & treated as impossible r often achieved

greatdude10
August 2nd, 2009, 10:30 PM
The west however does not believe in God mostly as it is too scientifically focussed & tries to reason everything

rajesh4bnl
August 4th, 2009, 03:57 AM
my dear i am agree with you that there is no of epics but it does not prove the existance of god. whatewer written in these epics some of the peoples amplified this for their own interest. the live example of these that we used to see these as a serial in ramayan and mahabharat on dd 1 but do you think that whatever they shown are that true??

rajesh4bnl
August 4th, 2009, 04:03 AM
ya, dear you are right
that's why i am saying that god is only a man made creation he belives in our bliefs only but in reality there is no any such kind of thing. some of the peoples only spreaded these superstition for their own interests.

harishjayaraman4
August 4th, 2009, 05:54 AM
God cannot be created.

There is a Supreme Force (Or Energy) that exists - the one which is beyond Human Control. We all know that Energy can neither me created nor destroyed...but Energy exists in several forms.

"OM ITHI EKAAKSHARAM BRAHMA" is what our VEDAS Say. OM is representative of the Universal Truth.

It is only from OM has everything emerged. The manifestation of OM can be looked at as Lord Shiva/Lord Vishnu and all other Hindu Gods.

Questions like "WHO AM I" and "WHERE HAVE I COME FROM" do arise for great Tapasvis and Rishis. They have gone in search of this Universal Truth.

At this juncture, let me say something on my Perception/Philosophy of RELIGION.

An examination was conducted using 4 sets of Question Papers and each had
a Simple Quadratic Equation, but represented using different variables:
s2-2s+1=0 (Set A)
v2-2v+1=0 (Set B)
a2-2a+1=0 (Set C)
j2-2j+1=0 (Set D)

It is obvious that the student who was allotted set A would be interested in the outcome pertaining to his variable only! And likewise for other cases, as well.

And do you know what these variables represent?

's' means Lord SHIVA
'v' means Lord VISHNU
'a' means Allah
'j' means Jesus


And all equations yield the same result. The result That GOD is ONE! But only with a focused approach, one can come to that stage

I am coming from the point that do take a focused approach on your religion and do not hurt/harm people from any other religion. If you see Life as an examination, only then will you get all the seriousness that goes behind its execution.

At the outset, it is in the perception that one can see GOD's existence or Non-Existence. It is pure play Mindset.

One may say "GOD IS NOWHERE". But then destiny can overrule it by saying "GOD IS NOW HERE".