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samir_is_here
June 6th, 2008, 12:40 PM
Some of the peculiar qualities of Indian Education System:
1. You should not think Outside-the-Book (till school days, teacher don't like students who asks too many questions.. that too one which that are outside-the-book)
2. Concentrate on Marks. At the end what matters is how much did you score in school exam, what was average in graduation.. what is you GPA in PG ... More you score.. that means you are INTELLIGENT.
3. Exams are taken in every 2 months... then system of evaluation of exams itself is so complex that even the teachers sometimes get confused.
Once the school starts you have no time to play.
4. Extra-Curricular are good but not good for career.. If you want to earn a living after graduation .. better stop thinking about extra-curricular.
5. During School days, for any kind of Projects - teacher will give the topic.. and parents will do the work .. and student will never understand what exactly the project was about... but get the marks.
6. If you can't understand the school teacher's teaching... Join COACHING CLASSES.. they will teach you how to RATTOFY (mug-up) things and vomit in exams.. and get good marks.. hence you will become INTELLIGENT.
7. The Science stream is only for INTELLIGENT people (one who gets good marks in school-level).. and ARTS stream is for the people who dont have any other option.
The decision of choosing stream is based on your MARKS.. and not your liking or not on your aptitude.
All the points stated above may not be related to just our education system.. but are also related to the mentality of Indian people which was developed due to our education system.
What do you think .. is it time that our education system needs to change -
Don't your think education system should be the one which encourages more innovation.. one which supports child's natural talent.. and does not thrust their own system on child and mould them according to the system.
Or you think that our education system is already very good. (dont think just about IIT's and IIMs .. please think about the education at the school level)
Please comment.
Regards,
Samir
deepakraam
June 6th, 2008, 03:34 PM
Hi,
One more point to add is the style of the Q paper.Q paper concentrates more on thoery and asks students to write for pages.You can't differentiate b/w English Literature and Science paper of STD 12 frm TN.Less than 10% of the science paper has prblms.Qs are nt oriented towards application of the concepts.So students blindy read the formulae and they don't know where and huv to use.This is worse than nt knowing it.
Education system in India is producing only Memory monkeys than real and innovative thinkers.
-Deepak.
teja12
June 30th, 2008, 11:08 AM
No system is perfect......Each has to evolve................................................
DocRock
February 7th, 2009, 03:51 PM
Unfortunately the Indian System ha been "evolving" for too long... It is yet to see any major changes in the system...................
anyzen
March 29th, 2009, 09:11 AM
One of the worst education system in the world is Indian education system, It needs lot of changes to create more scientist, researchers, and innovators.
amit_singhal
July 25th, 2009, 09:47 PM
that was cool!!! keep up the good work.........
psbarje@gmail.com
July 25th, 2009, 10:34 PM
Some of the peculiar qualities of Indian Education System:
1. You should not think Outside-the-Book (till school days, teacher don't like students who asks too many questions.. that too one which that are outside-the-book)
2. Concentrate on Marks. At the end what matters is how much did you score in school exam, what was average in graduation.. what is you GPA in PG ... More you score.. that means you are INTELLIGENT.
3. Exams are taken in every 2 months... then system of evaluation of exams itself is so complex that even the teachers sometimes get confused.
Once the school starts you have no time to play.
4. Extra-Curricular are good but not good for career.. If you want to earn a living after graduation .. better stop thinking about extra-curricular.
5. During School days, for any kind of Projects - teacher will give the topic.. and parents will do the work .. and student will never understand what exactly the project was about... but get the marks.
6. If you can't understand the school teacher's teaching... Join COACHING CLASSES.. they will teach you how to RATTOFY (mug-up) things and vomit in exams.. and get good marks.. hence you will become INTELLIGENT.
7. The Science stream is only for INTELLIGENT people (one who gets good marks in school-level).. and ARTS stream is for the people who dont have any other option.
The decision of choosing stream is based on your MARKS.. and not your liking or not on your aptitude.
All the points stated above may not be related to just our education system.. but are also related to the mentality of Indian people which was developed due to our education system.
What do you think .. is it time that our education system needs to change -
Don't your think education system should be the one which encourages more innovation.. one which supports child's natural talent.. and does not thrust their own system on child and mould them according to the system.
Or you think that our education system is already very good. (dont think just about IIT's and IIMs .. please think about the education at the school level)
psbarje@gmail.com
July 25th, 2009, 10:35 PM
India Education Historical Background:
The Vedas, Puranas, Ayurveda,Yoga, Kautilya's Arthasahtra are only some of the milestones that the traditional Indian knowledge system boasts of. There are evidences of imparting formal education in ancient India under the Gurukul system.
Under the Gurukul system, young boys who were passing through the Brahmacharya stage of life had to stay at the Guru or the teacher's home and complete their education.
Although the ancient system of education has produced many geniuses and still a major area of research, it was hardly egalitarian. Women and people of lower castes gradually lost their right to educate themselves. The spread of Jainism, Buddhism, Bhakti and Sufi movements did have some liberating effects on the condition of the women, sudras and atisudras. But it is the English language and the reformation movements of the 19th century that had the most liberating effect in pre-independent India. Thus, the Britishers, although rightly criticized for devastating the Indian economy, can also be credited for bringing a revolution in the Indian education system.
psbarje@gmail.com
July 25th, 2009, 10:36 PM
India Education Present Condition:
Soon after gaining independence in 1947, making education available to all had become a priority for the government. As discrimination on the basis of caste and gender has been a major impediment in the healthy development of the Indian society, they have been made unlawful by the Indian constitution.
The 86th constitutional amendment has also made elementary education a fundamental right for the children between the age group- 6 to 14. According to the 2001 census, the total literacy rate in India is 65.38%. The female literacy rate is only 54.16%. The gap between rural and urban literacy rate is also very significant in India. This is evident from the fact that only 59.4% of rural population are literate as against 80. 3% urban population according to the 2001 census.
In order to develop the higher education system, the government had established the University Grants Commission in 1953. The primary role of UGC has been to regulate the standard and spread of higher education in India. There has been a marked progress in the expansion of higher education if we look at the increase of higher educational institutes in India. The higher education system in India comprise of more than17000 colleges, 20 central universities, 217 State Universities, 106 Deemed to Universities and 13 institutes of Natioanl importance. This number will soon inflate as the setting up of 30 more central universities, 8 new IITs, 7 IIMs and 5 new Indian Institutes of Science are now proposed.
psbarje@gmail.com
July 25th, 2009, 10:37 PM
Education System in India:
The present education system in India mainly comprises of primary education, secondary education, senior secondary education and higher education. Elementary education consists of eight years of education. Each of secondary and senior secondary education consists of two years of education. Higher education in India starts after passing the higher secondary education or the 12th standard. Depending on the stream, doing graduation in India can take three to five years. Post graduate courses are generally of two to three years of duration. After completing post graduation, scope for doing research in various educational institutes also remains open.
psbarje@gmail.com
July 25th, 2009, 10:37 PM
Prominent Educational Institutes in India:
There are quite a good number of educational institutes in India that can compete with the best educational institutes of the world. The Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs), Indian Institutes of Management (IIMs), Indian Institutes of Science, National Law Schools, Jawaharlal Nehru University are some such institutes.
psbarje@gmail.com
July 25th, 2009, 10:38 PM
Education for the Marginalized in India:
As education is the means for bringing socio- economic transformation in a society, various measures are being taken to enhance the access of education to the marginalized sections of the society. One such measure is the introduction of the reservation system in the institutes of higher education. Under the present law, 7.5% seats in the higher educational institutes are reserved for the scheduled tribes, 15% for scheduled castes and 27% for the non creamy layers of the Other Backward Classes (OBCs). Under the Indian constitution, various minority groups can also set up their own educational institutes. Efforts are also being taken to improve the access to higher education among the women of India by setting up various educational institutes exclusively for them or reserving seats in the already existing institutes. The growing acceptance of distance learning courses and expansion of the open university system is also contributing a lot in the democratization of higher education in India.
Conclusion:
Despite all the efforts to develop the education system in India, access, equity and quality of education in India continue to haunt the policy makers till this date. This has mainly been due to the widespread poverty and various prejudices. The inability to check the drop out rates among the marginalized sections of the population is another cause of worry. However, the renewed emphasis in the education sector in the 11th five year plan and increased expenditure in both primary and higher education can act as palliatives for the Indian education system.
savio13
July 25th, 2009, 11:12 PM
The education system of India needs re-structuring NOW. It is high time that the government takes the initiative and remaps the system if it wants India to excel at a better pace...
The need of the time is that students have to be up-to-date of the current trends and scenario and skills available....
They have to be nurtured in the talents and skills that they would like to pursue later in their lives...
You cannot get up one day when you're in your teens and explore yourself...
That is the reason why teenagers in India are confused when you ask them what they want to do further in their career?
amit_singhal
July 26th, 2009, 10:26 AM
Practical knowledge is less in india as compared to foreign education.... So we need to ompart more of he innovative education so tht the students get some practical knowledge along with the theoritical knowledge
thomasedison
July 26th, 2009, 11:53 AM
wel i think we need to change our system according to mr.sibbal
greatdude10
July 29th, 2009, 02:04 AM
The system needs to be changed to make it more practical oriented
arpitmantri
July 29th, 2009, 09:47 AM
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dearpradee
July 30th, 2009, 10:01 PM
Indian education system is the best....Compare the mathematical skills of 10th grade indian student with american college student..U will know
hima_sss
July 30th, 2009, 10:36 PM
Indian Education is good in its own manner...
rj031086
July 31st, 2009, 10:44 AM
well well well i dont agree wid one of d posts which says indian education system is worst in world. Instead just search on d web n ull find dat its d best in d world.
Our academic curriculum is d best amongst all. We have best mathematics and science curriculum. What u study today in 10-12th outsiders study it in their PGs. Believe me guys dats d fact.
Dont forget what americans say - We get everything from d world but we get brains from India.
The thing where we lack is only n only our INFRASTRUCTURE. By dat i jst dont mean lovely buildings but d use of IT frm d beginning. Teachers shud b well versed wid IT systems and students shud b promoted @<hidden> d same level so dat studies become easy for them.
Another thing which certain companies have now started is joining hands wid educational instis so as to support students in all fields.
Dont blame our educational system.
Its just matter of time, things will get on track.
Plz reply all if u agree.
love_me
August 2nd, 2009, 08:51 PM
Education System in India:
The present education system in India mainly comprises of primary education, secondary education, senior secondary education and higher education. Elementary education consists of eight years of education. Each of secondary and senior secondary education consists of two years of education. Higher education in India starts after passing the higher secondary education or the 12th standard. Depending on the stream, doing graduation in India can take three to five years. Post graduate courses are generally of two to three years of duration. After completing post graduation, scope for doing research in various educational institutes also remains open.
kate88
August 8th, 2009, 10:46 AM
In India's education system is excellent.I totally agree with you.Indian education is best in this world and in its own manner.I appreciate your education system.Good Luck!!:SugarwareZ-211:
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hkakarai
August 8th, 2009, 12:51 PM
This is a wonderful topic for debate and has been so for a long time. There have been lot of times when people have come out and protested against the current education system. What we need now are not debates and forums to debate this topic on, but ACTION. For which none of us find the time and resources. Rather than debating on whether our education system is good or bad we need to build a forum in which we can get ideas on what we need to do and how do we bring about the change which we all want.
pryncesa
August 8th, 2009, 02:43 PM
u noe... d eductaion system in india has gone 2 d dogs!! on a average if u c.. dey jus turn d students into lumps of data...!! der's no practical assessment!
la5ch6
August 8th, 2009, 04:12 PM
Our education system is such where schools take on student who are avarage or above.They have interviews for parents students and then they decide on admision. If the student does not do well then he/she is week and if does well we are doing our best.
The schools today have no time to "teach" you have to learn of your own.They do not take pains to find out ways to bring up an average child to do better.There is no quality counsellers in school.Students who are not doing above average slowly start feeling they can not achieve desired goal and start faultering.The education system should be such that it brings out above average result fron an average student to instill confidence in him/her.
We have to have a system where students are divided into groups after say class 7 and based on individual studies like disk profile etc mould them into areas where we can build their confidence.
munishkuvadia
August 8th, 2009, 07:38 PM
India needs to completely revamp its education system.
I personally think we should lay more emphasis on understanding and application than on writing pages and pages of mugged up answers.
Our exams are a test of presentation and writing skills instead of being a test of knowledge and understanding.
There are many good and smart students who are very intelligent but always score low marks because they have poor handwriting and prefer to write to the point answers than beat around the bush.
Examiners are paid so poorly that they believe in measuring answers( ruler or weighing scale, I don't know) instead of actually reading the answers. 30 seconds- 1.5 minutes is all that a student gets for his evaluation after persevering for two hours through sweaty palms and sore fingers and mindless movements of the wrist- unfair isn't it.
chi
August 8th, 2009, 09:12 PM
i think our education system needs lots of changes it should also give pratical knowledge as after all today pratical knowledge works more then bookish knowledge
kishorp
August 9th, 2009, 02:25 PM
Good post.
But there are few things that need to be changed.
shivsagg
August 9th, 2009, 02:46 PM
the education system in india focuses on the theoretical aspect of everything rather than the practical aspect
mss_arif
August 9th, 2009, 08:49 PM
here just to add one more point...in the his last budget speech our honorable finance minister announced % of gdp expenditure tht govt is planning for education and no one can beleive tht it was just 3.2% of GDP , even a small country like bangladesh spends more than us on their education system, so i think it is going to take hell lot of time.
mss_arif
August 9th, 2009, 08:55 PM
why we hve been only talking abt primary level..even i saw many HR persons in top firms does the same thing, they evalute on the basis of your cgpa or aggregate marks in your grds, when i was in collage infy hr man used to visit our collage for placements, and pathatically they only entertain those students who had secured 65% above frm high school to last sem of grad, so if u screwed ur high school ur chances has gone for infy...welcome to India..!!!
parul.gupta
August 9th, 2009, 10:17 PM
yes the education system has its faults but still, looking at the number of indians making india proud as doctors, engineers, academicians and what not, around the world, we can say that it has something which clicks. it is not only the institutes of higher education which makes them what they are, the strong base formed in the initial yeras of education is also important. although the system needs to be updated and upgraded but i think the success of it and the form it actually takes, depends largely on the teachers and the students.
ramvilas123
August 9th, 2009, 11:59 PM
Found an interesting link here: A Holistic Approach towards Educational Reforms - Strat. In (http://strat.in/2009/08/education-reforms-india-need/)
viv150783
August 10th, 2009, 12:59 AM
Education system in India sucks...it is bad rite from start
vikram chawla
August 11th, 2009, 03:49 PM
:happy:i think education in india , on one hand is considered to be the best in the world with the quality of students passing out each yeaR...its said that the number of brilliant minded students in india is far more than the total number of students in america..
but at the same time,,,are we reachin to all the children of our country...i.e to the remotest of the places...the answer is clearly NO...
some of the ngos and other organisations have started the initiative for educating underpriviliged children ....like the TEACH INDIA campaign...
but this needs to be done even at a much higher level...with the government taking some really serious measures...
and also at the highr level education like mba and even at the post grad level....the competititon is huge...many of the students not getting that good education,,,this mainly takes to the point of lack of proper infrastructure in our educational institutes...lack of the number of good institutes...etc..
the govt should allow the foreign universities to open their campuses in the country...and similarly set some benchmarks for all the institutes to get a AICTE approval...
i think that the education system in INDIA is very good but there is also a huge scope in improving the same...
mss_arif
August 11th, 2009, 10:41 PM
well ..what is think why indians are getting good jobs or doing good work because of their learning aptitude or a hunger for success which is working like a driving force , undoubtly we have the largest pool of talents but how many are working in india because of lack of infrastructure and space to develope those ideas thaey have? so government needs to provide enough facility to develope quality infra and research facilities...!!
Alisha Savla
August 12th, 2009, 10:10 AM
Education system in india is not so bad as it is considered.........
There are major changes that being taken place in the system and even in the minds of ppl. students today are expecting more and hence there arises a need of self -financeing cources . no doubt today these cources are bringing out actual talents of students and also inculcating professinalism in them which is very essential.
These things largely depend upon the attitude of students .........
this is wat i feel
Regards
Alisha Savla
sandeshr
August 12th, 2009, 10:54 AM
Education system in India is quite flawed but there is a silver lining. The increasing number of females enrolling in institutes for higher education, the mid day meal scheme etc. are all positives that are improving the situation at the grass roots level.
chandanagarwal1987
August 12th, 2009, 01:16 PM
education system does need some restructuring...
higher education shud be more industry oriented..
hims1402
August 12th, 2009, 10:21 PM
hi..
i agree with all of you guys..., abd what i would like to emphasize on is that in India apart from education system alone... its the pressure that parents apply on children is also a point of major concern , which enforces such kind of education system that India follows ...
Faras
August 13th, 2009, 03:36 PM
Education in India is good, particularly CBSE, whats lacking is proper staff, teachers to teach, no clear education system in State-based syllabi schools, lack of practical exposure in education and no proper moral support to students to excel in there area of interests!@<hidden>!
On the whole, indian education system is good compared to even countries like US where the country has proposed new education laws to give importance to science and maths as subjects of importance to American students...
trilok singh
August 13th, 2009, 06:36 PM
education system difficulty level goes on increasing as we enter into higher classes.we have different courses like MBA,BBI,BMS,BMMetc.
mss_arif
August 14th, 2009, 07:13 PM
well...Enough has been written about education system of India but, there are some important made by us president Mr barak obama, that is , if us students dont start working hard in primary education indian and chinese student will sweep out all the worlds top most jobs....so 3 cheers to indians....
vvkhardikar
August 14th, 2009, 07:36 PM
d system of mugging up sucks...
d system should make students become more innovative, think about things and nt become memory cards...
greatdude10
August 16th, 2009, 12:00 AM
education system truly requires a major turnaround.
akshaysam
August 18th, 2009, 12:23 PM
Education builds the man so it builds the nation. Today we claim to be the biggest human resources supplier for the world, but are we concerned what quality of human capital we are building and for whose needs? We supply bureaucrats to the government, software engineers to the IT companies around the world, highly paid managers to the multinationals, we supply engineers and science graduates as researchers to the foreign universities. What capital are we building for ourselves?
India aspires to be powerful, it wants to play a role in the international community, for that to happen, its economy has to grow multifold and for that to happen, it requires a huge force of entrepreneurs who could transform it into a nation which produces, from the one which only consumes. India needs a huge force of innovators who could make it self reliant in all kinds of sciences and technologies. India needs artists who could make its culture the most popular in the world. A culture which is not only saleable itself but also helps in selling India’s products across the world. In a nutshell, India needs Henry Fords, Bill Gateses, Thomas Alva Edisons and Michael Jacksons born and educated in India.
One may say we had few. Yes, we had. M. S. Swaminathan who made India self reliant in food grains, Dhiru Bhai Ambani who proved a common man can become a billionaire, Dr. Varghese Kurien who is the father of Amul milk movement, Dr. A. P. J. Abdul Kalam who dared to build missiles for India, Pundit Ravishankar who is the ambassador of the Indian music to the world. Such people though in small numbers, were always there. But they are not the products of this education system. This system did not teach them how to become innovators or entrepreneurs or artists. Had it done so, they would have been millions in numbers. These people were inspired themselves. To some of them, their education may have given the technical know-how (though it is hardly conceivable), but not the dream or the inspiration needed. It is the education which should inspire one to become something one really wants to. Education should make you free, should make you experiment and it should make you ask questions. Ultimately, it should make you realize what you are.
Youngsters in India, do not have the freedom of selecting there career, it is said. They are forced to become engineers, doctors, MBA’s and IAS officers, it is said. Yes, agree. But that is not the problem. The problem is, youngsters in India do not have the vision to think beyond. Neither their parents, nor their grandparents had that vision. This is where the root of the problem is. Generations have gone through a system which sucks. Now the beauty is even the law-makers and educators of today’s India are products of that age old system. That is why no less than a revolution is needed in the education system in India.
What do we expect from such a revolution?
A revolution means big changes. We expect the revolution in education to bring lots of changes. These changes will result into:
1. Best talents of the country working in the education sector.
Today, education is not the career of choice, but it is the career of compromise. If you are a teacher, people sympathize, they curse the prevalent unemployment in the country. Education is one of the highest profit making ‘industries’ in the service sector, but its workers are the least paid compared to those working in somewhat glamorous sectors like the IT industry. This has to change.
2. A world class infrastructure.
The experience of shopping at malls is better than the old dirty bazaars. The experience of traveling in a metro train is much better than suffering in the city buses. The experience of driving on four or six lane highways is much better the same way. The same way, infrastructure has a meaning in education. World class universities and schools with world class libraries, laboratories and classrooms, in a world class building make a world class infrastructure for education.
3. Greater investments into education, public as well as private.
We need world class infrastructure and best talents in all schools and universities of India. These resources should not remain limited to a handful of IIT’s or IIM’s. Each village should have a school with all resources and facilities. Each university should have whatever it needs for a better education. This would require huge money and hence, huge investments.
4. Education which encourages innovation and creativity.
When farmers in the villages of Punjab make a vehicle from the diesel engine and name it Maruta (A male version of Maruti), that is innovation. When villagers of the Rajasthan and Gujarat transform the Bike ‘Enfield Bullet’ into a local auto-rickshaw, that is creativity. How many automobile engineering students could do likewise? The question is, how many?
5. Education which encourages entrepreneurship.
In a Hindi movie ‘Nayak’, the father of the actress refuses to permit for her marriage with the actor because he is not a government servant. At last, he permits, but then the Actor had become the chief minister of the state. This mindset of the society, particularly of the middle class, has to be changed. You are not a respectful person if after education you start a business, as that is seen as a failure in getting a job. It is the task of the education system to change this mindset. It also has to inspire the youth for the necessary courage and vision for entrepreneurship.
6. An education which makes a child sad when the last bell is rung at the end of the day in the school.
akshaysam
August 18th, 2009, 12:23 PM
-read Gandhi on basic education and
-know Dr. Abdulkalam(president) ’s views on Education.
-When profit (economical)enters in ed. then spirit of deeds dies.
akshaysam
August 18th, 2009, 12:24 PM
New career choices and an openness towards them in the parents is a wellcome sign.
But this is only among a minor section of society. Again, the motive behind these careers is a merely a job. The technical educaional institute still can offer better results to the society if they understand that their job is education and research and not examinaion and distribution of degreees.
akshaysam
August 18th, 2009, 12:25 PM
Guys, you are missing a few big points:
look at the Maharashtra Engg/Med admissions : they are an organised loot of students’ money with 50% seats beign allotted to management quota. The “donation” to get those seats is in the range of 3-12 lacs for Engg and 5-32 lacs for Med.
At least 25% of that goes to ministers and politicians.
Also, the syllabus is deliberately kept poor, vague and outdated. That is chiefly because the same profs who teach in colleges run classes/tuitions and if they are going to have to learn the latest technology, they wont be able to make that much money ’cause they dont know all the new stuff.
Also, they dont teach in college coz if they do, students wont come for their classes.
Also, ministers who otherwise jump to disinvest and gobble up a hefty commission from MNCs arent in a mood to outsource education to foreign univs coz *they* run colleges here which are hopelessly substandard and if they allow outside colleges to setup branches, their colleges will shut down in *months*.
Finally, although industry can invest, industry also knows the perils of messing around with the ministry. And look at it straight, the more the unemployment the better it is for companies – they need to pay far less since people will do anything for a basic income.
So, stop thinking about revolution and start thinking about corruption.
So, “desh gaya bhaad mein – apni dekh aur maja kar”
god help this country!
akshaysam
August 18th, 2009, 12:26 PM
The Situation : piles of books, parental pressure, peer pressure.
Task : Complete 25 chapters per subject by the end of the year for the final examinations.
Memorize! Memorize! That’s the key word.
Believe it or not, the Indian educational system tests your memory-skills rather than the ‘application of concepts’ in real-life situation. It concentrates too much on the theroetical aspects of topics, rather than focussing on the practical knowledge. All a student needs to do to top his class is:
1- Read and re-read
2- Memorize the text (which gets too much for the brain)
3- Vomit it all out on the day of the examination
And if you happen to have great mugging-skills, BINGO! You are in the top 5 list of the most “intelligent” students of the class. Is that right ?? That is what has been happening in India since decades, but is it serving the purpose? That is the question.
The purpose of education is to develop the young minds into beautiful brains. But is that purpose being achieved by judging the intellectual capability of students by taking yearly examinations? Do we need periodic-assessment or the grading system in India?
akshaysam
August 18th, 2009, 12:26 PM
Everything in India took a deep dive in the last two decades. The effect of this dive in education will be felt in the next decade or so. There appears to be some awakening of late and may be if this trend continues India will come out of the gutters it is presently in. The contribution that has been made and that which continues is the effect of the education system of the past. Individual excellence is still possible and with our vast population quality contribution will still be there. The selfish, perverted, power hungry has always played a major role in India, be it the husband with the dowry stick, or the zamindar or the goonda. It is just that these perverted souls have entered the powerful lobby of politicians. When we are yet to completely erase the dowry hazard, what hopes do we have of eradicating these from the governing lobby.
akshaysam
August 18th, 2009, 12:27 PM
Thoughts on improving the education system
The Indian Education system is in great trouble. These are some of the faults I find in the current education system.
Several children do not even get a basic elementary education.
The rich and upper middle class in cities find decent quality private schools to send their children to. Even in these schools, getting a pass in the exams is the priority, not learning. Even these schools fail in teaching various arts, and in particular common sense to children.
Both the private and government schools in smaller towns and villages are uniformly pathetic.
Even if a student graduates from a higher secondary school, there are not enough colleges. The only hope left to most high school graduates is correspondence education. It is not clear to me whether one can be motivated enough to study through the correspondence course material sitting at home.
Even if one graduates from college, the graduates are mostly unemployable, because of poor quality course material and teaching in the colleges. I have myself seen a number of such people while interviewing them for various posts in my organization.
Despite all this, several thousand young men and women have been leading our nation forward. On just about all counts of economic indicators including the foreign exchange reserves, "India is Shining". Just imagine where we can be if only we resolved our education related problems?
Here are some of my (not so complete) ideas:
Compulsory free education should be made available till Class XII
The state and central governments should completely absorb the cost of providing free education till 12th standard to every child, irrespective of caste, religion and economic status. This should cover not just school fees, but also free books, food if necessary, uniform clothing and even a place to stay if the parents cannot afford that to their children. Those with money can always opt for their favourite private school, and feed their own children. Alternately, some rich may decide to send their children to the govt. schools.
Govt. schools should be run by private entities/entrepreneurs.
It is very doubtful if the government can manage hiring qualified teachers and provide quality education to children. Like in the USA, the government can opt for building the schools and make them available to private companies on a long-term lease, based on auction. The organization that comes up with the lowest bid and agrees to maintain the best quality education would be chosen to run each school in each locality.
We need to introduce a concept of 'education credit'. It is an amount equal to the average cost incurred in teaching a child in the privately run Govt. schools. This education credit is made available to every child. The child can either avail of the education by exchanging this credit in the Govt. owned and private operated school, or cash this portion against the fees and other costs incurred by them in a completely private school. This way, the tax payer does not have to feel miffed that his her money is used only to train OTHER children. Panchayat and municipalities must own and manage the school premises and oversee the operation of the private entities running the school.
All education above higher secondary school level should be primarily dealt with by private entities.
If some state governments wish, they can run colleges, but it should be unnecessary. Students should be offered lenient education loans at very low interest rates.These loans are liable to be paid only after the students finish their education and find a job of their own.
That is, free education until higher secondary; but paid-for education after that. Those who can't afford to pay for this higher education get low-cost and lenient loans. This kind of comfortable educational loans are made available to students in USA.
Alternate education must be promoted
It appears to me that there is no need to teach anyone for more than 3 hours a day till the secondary school. Therefore, the available education infrastructure can be used more effectively through the shift system. Three normal shifts can be run between 0700-1000, 1100-1400 and 1500-1800 hours. An hour gap in between for the children to leave the school and the next set to walk in. In the late nights - from 1900-2200, the facility can be used to provide education to old and unlettered. Facilities such as the building, furniture, library, computer centre, laboratories and play fields can be used very efficiently in this
manner.
Further, individual teachers wanting to run their own curriculum can be entertained to use the nearby school facilities including the building, furniture, library, computer centre and laboratories. Like the 'Gurukula' method, a single teacher can lead a group of about 20 children from 1st to 12th standard. The students can write their 10th and 12th standard examination under the National Institute of Open Schooling. Nothing stops those who graduate through this system from joining the available colleges. Through the 'education credit', each student can pay his teacher. This helps the teacher earn a reasonable income and the student is also guaranteed quality infrastructure.
College education through correspondence system to be increased
In each town, "Tutorial" colleges (as they are called in Chennai) can be set up by individuals who enroll their students in a correspondence course run by authorised universities. [This is applicable only to non-professional courses.] The day-to-day training is provided by these Tutorial colleges. The timings can be flexible, allowing for the students to also find a part-time work during the day.
Impediments in the way of setting up for-profit private colleges to be removed
Today, only a charitable trust can set up educational institutions. Therefore, honest entrepreneurs interested in making profits will not get involved in spending their time and setting up quality educational institutions. The result is that only criminals who plunder money illegally in the name of "charitable trusts" get involved in providing education, and make money through capitation fees. To stop this, the government should allow for for-profit companies to set up educational institutions.
This move will result in considerable capital flowing into the education sector. These colleges so set up will still come under the purview of the education ministries around the country, and so the government can still regulate the fees charges for providing the education. This is akin to regulating the distribution of power in Mumbai and Delhi. The government regulator only decides the upper limit cost per unit of power. Similar regulation now exists in telecom. Therefore it is perfectly possible to bring about the same in education as well.
I do not claim that these suggestions, if implemented, will remove all problems we have in our education sector. However I am hopeful that they can alleviate the problem considerably.
akshaysam
August 18th, 2009, 12:28 PM
Make all elected officials and all govt employees to send there childeren to the Govt schools. Imagine the Zill parishat Chairman and Dictrict collector send their children to the govt scholl. The Quality of Education will improve.
regards
akshaysam
August 18th, 2009, 12:29 PM
Present eduation system is very bad compare to other countries. now the education field has become a profit motive business in all state in india and no one take care on the welfare of childrens who are really the future citizen of india. we should take some neccessary steps to create a new education trend to the present shinning india
akshaysam
August 18th, 2009, 12:29 PM
recently there are a number of parties emerging newly in each corner of the country. there should be some educational techniques or stragites should emergy to solve the problems of our childrens who are facing a lot of problems now . there should be a change in the present education systems include various subjects that really help the students useful in their future life. Communicative based syllabus should be introduce as our students are lack in the communication in english. As English is common man's language now like the mobile phones became the toys of the common man in the todays world. consider this in the mind let us bring out some solutions to those problems
akshaysam
August 18th, 2009, 12:30 PM
the present educational system in india is all about money. the distance between the students learning in the public schools and the private schools are increasing day by day. the greatest problem which a learner in a govt school faces is the lack of motivation. in my opinion we should introduce innovative techniques to improve the situation.
akshaysam
August 18th, 2009, 12:31 PM
1. Compulsory free education should be made available till Class XII
I am not sure if this is feasible, because the state coffers lack the funding to take on such initiatives. City muncipalities would have to start taxing the residents to generate funds and there lies the problem - Hardly any one pays taxes in India. Same problem for vouchers as well. Cities with low per capita income will have low funding and there will be a gap in the quality of education between the rich and poor cities. In my opinion the state government should pump in more money for improving the educational system and hold the schools accountable for maintaining certain standards and continue to offer education at subsidized rates.
2. Govt. schools should be run by private entities/entrepreneurs
In theory I would agree with this idea, but again there lot of challenges. Leave it up to the government, the schools will be operated by kiths and kins of the local politicians. Even otherwiese, given the reputation of the government schools and authorities, who will be willing to take on such endeavours? What is the incentive? The political system has to be revamped from top down before we can make this a viable option. My suggestion is to make the local residents vote to elect the school authorities. That way, the local residents and responsible citizens will have an incentive to participate and imprve their local educational system. Accountability will also be enforced by the local residents.
3. All education above higher secondary school level should be primarily dealt with by private entities
I completely disagree with this. Some of our best educational institutions in India are goverment run institutions. What should happen is that the state governments should focus on improving the quality of education in these fine institutions and build closer relatiosnhips with industries and promote their schools to obtain charitable endowments.
5. College education through correspondence system to be increased.
In my opinion, distance learing should only be promoted for students in remote areas who do not have access to colleges or infrastructure. Education is not just about obtaining paper degrees. Education is about creating awareness, teach social and moral values, exposure to realities about life and motivating students to acheive more in life and live with a purpose. Correspondence education cannot acheive this.
6. Impediments in the way of setting up for-profit private colleges to be removed.
This is another tricky situation. Establishing institutions by for profit organizations will cause the cost of education to skyrocket. Of course, this will promote some level of competition between the schools which might encourage the school owners to improve quality. But this is a delicate situation and the pros and cons have to be weighed carefully.
I accidentally bumped in to this site and I am glad that there is so much discussion about improving the educational system in India. I think that superior educational system is key to the fiture success of India.
akshaysam
August 18th, 2009, 12:31 PM
Education Reforms
Our current institutions are in desperate needs to funding, to improve everything from building to quality of education. The idea of Continuing education is an urgent need today. In fact this can serve as potential revenue for current institutes, as employers can sponsor them. In addition, what we need is complete revamp of our High Education system.
Education should get 7-10% of GDP. Money should go for only primary education and not for secondary and higher engineering college/university, ( IITs and IIMs can easily collect money from sources other then govt.) )Put right Spirited educational reforms.
One of the reason IIT and IIM has reached such great Quality is b'cause they are autonomus. no government control except government gives just money. The admission criteria, course material, examination board to follow, fees, age limit are left for autonomus institution to decide. Lets replicate this success throughout India by giving complete autonomy to primary, secondary, higher, engineering, medical colleges/universities. They will become profit making, self governing, autonomus institutions. No UGC like government body to interfere on schoolbooks or fees by politicians. No more astronomy classes for IIM students at lower fees.
Monopoly that the state sector has in providing school/college education should be opened up to all providers, public and profit making private firms. We have huge demand to educate 300 million people and curremt supply is for less then for 30 million people. Only private, public-private participation can help fill the gap.
Also, we must thank our private tuition classes and individual tutor for providing such a quality of service and generating employment. Without NIIT, Kelkar and other private classes we would not have created the talent, we have now. This institutions have compensated for the poor quality of our state education system. Allow this classes to become college/university to foster competition. Existing colleges can affiliate for distance learning class at this private class with revenue sharing agreement.
All government institutes should be converted to Semi - Private institutes, basically government should not interfere in how much is the fees, what is salaries of professors, what courses can be offered, How many students can be admitted etc... Increase in fees may be regulated to some extent, but should be encouraged to sustain same quality of education. Allow fair Competition and let (market/indian people) decide the fees they are willing to pay. Do not interfere with fees of Education. If we are concerned for Poor People then give them vouchers
The education minister should recommend that “market clearing” fees be charged at all levels of education, and students made to pay on the basis of a “means” test. And students should be allowed to enter a school or college of their choice (via modern voucher systems).
Only poor families should get advantage of government aid, in comparison to current situation where everyone pays low fees. May be low interest loans for some sections make sense.
But what about the poor student? The money earned by charging fees from the rich should go towards a two-tier voucher system for the poor — scholarship for the fees and living expenses. Finally, for girl students, at all levels, the scholarship to be higher.
Forex Reserve of $10Billion for Only primary education and school infrastucture. Not on secondary or higher education. Government should only check autonomy in this autonomus institution. Keep standard guidelines for them to follow and create cometition among them.
Government must make good quality roads to connect schools/colleges to city/villages. School will automatically get developed by Indians, private partnership.
All institutions should be rated for quality of education, Regulating body should put reforms in firm terms with institutions with inferior quality. This way people get information about quality standard of educational institution.
If you are out of job or fired, you are eligible for panchayat level education training program in your field of expertise (the one mentioned as one of the task of panchayat)
Progressively remove reservations based on caste system and put more emphasis on economic conditions of applicant's family to help poorest of the poor.
Allow Private University to enter Indian Market with no pre-restriction. If Stanford, MIT, NJIT like university wants to teach Indian people let them do so. Diversity in Education is good, it fosters creativity of different minds. Remember, we have to teach a billion people and re-train them with advanced skills. Currently, Demand is huge, Supply is Low. 52% of Indian Population is below age 24.
Allow existing Colleges to become University. if they have money let them start teaching quality material of there own to any age group.
Syllabi of all education branches needs to be updated. Basic computer education should become universal.
Autonomus Education institute can provide continuing education and make profit too. employers can easily sponsor such program. Major emphasis should be made on Leadership education, Motivational education, personnal development, public speaking - all this are need of the hour for shining India.
Allow Industry Funding to existing University so that they can do research and development which is not even there currently.
Citizens should be encouraged to save for their children's Higher education from the beginning, if required may be by some Tax incentives.
During Admission take Income-Tax record of the student's family and not only the bona fide certificate(place of birth).
For Unemployed people, give vouchers to retrain them in educational institution of the area of their choice.
Only by above mentioned reforms we will be able to produce not only 2,000 IIT Graduates a year, but 20 Lakh quality graduates in all areas for e.g. Urban management, Public Service, Management, Journalism, Film Production, etc...
In Past IT, Bollywood, Cricket has made us proud. Now our telecom and highways are making us proud. Let us our eduation system make us proud in future. Education in India
akshaysam
August 18th, 2009, 12:33 PM
Education builds the man so it builds the nation. Today we claim to be the biggest human resources supplier for the world, but are we concerned what quality of human capital we are building and for whose needs? We supply bureaucrats to the government, software engineers to the IT companies around the world, highly paid managers to the multinationals, we supply engineers and science graduates as researchers to the foreign universities. What capital are we building for ourselves?
India aspires to be powerful, it wants to play a role in the international community, for that to happen, its economy has to grow multifold and for that to happen, it requires a huge force of entrepreneurs who could transform it into a nation which produces, from the one which only consumes. India needs a huge force of innovators who could make it self reliant in all kinds of sciences and technologies. India needs artists who could make its culture the most popular in the world. A culture which is not only saleable itself but also helps in selling India’s products across the world. In a nutshell, India needs Henry Fords, Bill Gateses, Thomas Alva Edisons and Michael Jacksons born and educated in India.
One may say we had few. Yes, we had. M. S. Swaminathan who made India self reliant in food grains, Dhiru Bhai Ambani who proved a common man can become a billionaire, Dr. Varghese Kurien who is the father of Amul milk movement, Dr. A. P. J. Abdul Kalam who dared to build missiles for India, Pundit Ravishankar who is the ambassador of the Indian music to the world. Such people though in small numbers, were always there. But they are not the products of this education system. This system did not teach them how to become innovators or entrepreneurs or artists. Had it done so, they would have been millions in numbers. These people were inspired themselves. To some of them, their education may have given the technical know-how (though it is hardly conceivable), but not the dream or the inspiration needed. It is the education which should inspire one to become something one really wants to. Education should make you free, should make you experiment and it should make you ask questions. Ultimately, it should make you realize what you are.
Youngsters in India, do not have the freedom of selecting there career, it is said. They are forced to become engineers, doctors, MBA’s and IAS officers, it is said. Yes, agree. But that is not the problem. The problem is, youngsters in India do not have the vision to think beyond. Neither their parents, nor their grandparents had that vision. This is where the root of the problem is. Generations have gone through a system which sucks. Now the beauty is even the law-makers and educators of today’s India are products of that age old system. That is why no less than a revolution is needed in the education system in India.
What do we expect from such a revolution?
A revolution means big changes. We expect the revolution in education to bring lots of changes. These changes will result into:
1. Best talents of the country working in the education sector.
Today, education is not the career of choice, but it is the career of compromise. If you are a teacher, people sympathize, they curse the prevalent unemployment in the country. Education is one of the highest profit making ‘industries’ in the service sector, but its workers are the least paid compared to those working in somewhat glamorous sectors like the IT industry. This has to change.
2. A world class infrastructure.
The experience of shopping at malls is better than the old dirty bazaars. The experience of traveling in a metro train is much better than suffering in the city buses. The experience of driving on four or six lane highways is much better the same way. The same way, infrastructure has a meaning in education. World class universities and schools with world class libraries, laboratories and classrooms, in a world class building make a world class infrastructure for education.
3. Greater investments into education, public as well as private.
We need world class infrastructure and best talents in all schools and universities of India. These resources should not remain limited to a handful of IIT’s or IIM’s. Each village should have a school with all resources and facilities. Each university should have whatever it needs for a better education. This would require huge money and hence, huge investments.
4. Education which encourages innovation and creativity.
When farmers in the villages of Punjab make a vehicle from the diesel engine and name it Maruta (A male version of Maruti), that is innovation. When villagers of the Rajasthan and Gujarat transform the Bike ‘Enfield Bullet’ into a local auto-rickshaw, that is creativity. How many automobile engineering students could do likewise? The question is, how many?
5. Education which encourages entrepreneurship.
In a Hindi movie ‘Nayak’, the father of the actress refuses to permit for her marriage with the actor because he is not a government servant. At last, he permits, but then the Actor had become the chief minister of the state. This mindset of the society, particularly of the middle class, has to be changed. You are not a respectful person if after education you start a business, as that is seen as a failure in getting a job. It is the task of the education system to change this mindset. It also has to inspire the youth for the necessary courage and vision for entrepreneurship.
6. An education which makes a child sad when the last bell is rung at the end of the day in the school.
ashwini sinha
August 18th, 2009, 03:08 PM
basically the education system of our country is a copy of british education system and we followed blindly this system without looking in to our actual requirements and potential . very few people had given good suggestion and half hearted approach of policy makers has spoiled every thing.education system stressing more on securing good marks in exams will not help in the blossiming of original and practical thinking in the students rather it will orient the students mind in only one direction i e exam
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