If corruption is legalised?

[melroy88]

what are your views if corruption would be legalised?

[melroy88]

http://www.iips.cz/upload/Handcuffed_to_Money.jpg

[akila2187]

hey a good topic...
well acc to me .. there is corruption everywhere.... legalising it will be useful as there is need to bribe and every place where we go... by legalising it the ppl will find it usefull as they will hv a clear idea about amount about the govt rate and corruption rate, they will hv to shed to get their work done. .. this will help their work to get over in a faster time and corruption has become a regular practise now a days... ppl dnt feel ashamed to offer money to any officials to get their wokr done neither r the ppl who take it... it has become clear tat if u break a law .. paisa do aur chalte bano..... ppl r cool with it .. it makes a diff only a few... who r totally against this practise.....

[akila2187]

and i must say melroy the pic is awesome... it fits to the topic...

[gaurav200x]

what are your views if corruption would be legalised?
Legalizing corruption is like saying i have the right to rob u and u can't even complain.... Do u think its possible?

[akila2187]

Legalizing corruption is like saying i have the right to rob u and u can't even complain.... Do u think its possible?
hey gaurav dnt u thnk ppl who ask for bribe ask in an authoritative manner that i will rob u .. and how many of us r reluctant .. no one .. we all offer so they take ...... once if we stop giving them they will be forced to do our work in whtever salary they get frm the govt.....

[gaurav200x]

hey gaurav dnt u thnk ppl who ask for bribe ask in an authoritative manner that i will rob u .. and how many of us r reluctant .. no one .. we all offer so they take ...... once if we stop giving them they will be forced to do our work in whtever salary they get frm the govt.....
Hi akhila,
i am not sure if u understood hat legalising corruption means. Can u please explain?

Legalising corruption is NOT an option. Can committing crime be legalised?

[akila2187]

Hi akhila,
i am not sure if u understood hat legalising corruption means. Can u please explain?

Legalising corruption is NOT an option. Can committing crime be legalised?

i took it as shud corruption be allowed in evry offices... so i thought wen ppl do it in an hidden manner y cant they do it openly wen it is legalised.. if i am wrong plzzz let me kno...

[gaurav200x]

i took it as shud corruption be allowed in evry offices... so i thought wen ppl do it in an hidden manner y cant they do it openly wen it is legalised.. if i am wrong plzzz let me kno...
Yeah! what u understood is right..... But if Gabbar Singh loots people's houses at night time, then do u think, he should be legally allowed to do so in broad day-light?

[akila2187]

Yeah! what u understood is right..... But if Gabbar Singh loots people's houses at night time, then do u think, he should be legally allowed to do so in broad day-light?

haha not at all .. bt here in corruption ppl accpet money coz there r ppl who giv it to get their work done .... and they dnt do te wokr till they r paid high so y nt making it legal.. coz by this atleast it will be a open deal....?!!!!!!!!!

[melroy88]

I got this topic in my Gd today,thats why i put it up..I feel you cant stop other illegal activites ,but you can always reduce it by taking certain actions,FOR EG. If you want a triband connection,you ask the responsible people for setting it up for you,3 months passes,then 5 months you scold them.Eventually the person comes to a conclusion to get the work done.This is not the right way, go to the head office or send a mail to the company or responsible people and take legal actions and not the way to corruption

Regards,
Melroy.
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[akila2187]

[QUOTE=melroy88;59246]I got this topic in my Gd today,thats why i put it up..I feel you cant stop other illegal activites ,but you can always reduce it by taking certain actions,FOR EG. If you want a triband connection,you ask the responsible people for setting it up for you,3 months passes,then 5 months you scold them.Eventually the person comes to a conclusion to get the work done.This is not the right way, go to the head office or send a mail to the company or responsible people and take legal actions and not the way to corruption

bt nt all think tat way .. if each and every one starts thinking these things sucha wasy .. then the corruption wud hv nvr emerged a social diseases.. dnt u thnk so.....

[melroy88]

Yes not all think that way .but for the 1s that do....Its going to effect our nation in some way or the other.Everyone gets bribes,even children -ot for money but for chocolates lolz :P .....GREED is the cause for all this..

[gaurav200x]

haha not at all .. bt here in corruption ppl accpet money coz there r ppl who giv it to get their work done .... and they dnt do te wokr till they r paid high so y nt making it legal.. coz by this atleast it will be a open deal....?!!!!!!!!!
I think that answers the first part of the problem.... i.e. corruption can't be legalised... So, no the question that lies ahead is how do we counter this corruption....

See this corruption is like a big industry... a big machinery... who every part is affected by this so-called "rust". Niether can u do away with it nor can u accept it.

There are a couple of ways to reduce corruption:

Privatisation -> This will certainly help to reduce corruption, because the need is for a common corporate gain. Even if we do not wish to encourage capitalism, then we can have neo-capitalism, i.e. a blend of socialism and capitalism fixed.

Taking the help of the media -> As u can see that media is always alert and ever-ready to catch sizzling hot stories and conducting various sting operations. No matter what others opine about media, it is still one very powerful tool against corruption.

[akila2187]

I think that answers the first part of the problem.... i.e. corruption can't be legalised... So, no the question that lies ahead is how do we counter this corruption....

See this corruption is like a big industry... a big machinery... who every part is affected by this so-called "rust". Niether can u do away with it nor can u accept it.

There are a couple of ways to reduce corruption:

Privatisation -> This will certainly help to reduce corruption, because the need is for a common corporate gain. Even if we do not wish to encourage capitalism, then we can have neo-capitalism, i.e. a blend of socialism and capitalism fixed.

Taking the help of the media -> As u can see that media is always alert and ever-ready to catch sizzling hot stories and conducting various sting operations. No matter what others opine about media, it is still one very powerful tool against corruption.


really nice solution .. bt dnt mistake me .. there r soo many cases which hv been opend out by anti corruption bureau and evn by the media .. how far hv they helped .. i agree tat greed is need of all this... even now today u go to any govt office or for tat matter any officials they will ask u undertable money ... whch in a particular situation cant be controlled....

[melroy88]

Its not only offices its everywhere,Govt officials,judges contractors etc,so its not only inside those 4 walls of an office.

[gaurav200x]

really nice solution .. bt dnt mistake me .. there r soo many cases which hv been opend out by anti corruption bureau and evn by the media .. how far hv they helped .. i agree tat greed is need of all this... even now today u go to any govt office or for tat matter any officials they will ask u undertable money ... whch in a particular situation cant be controlled....
See everything has a beginning. Compare media's power now and what it was earlier. You will notice a drastic change.

Ever heard of sting operations before.... It is because now media is showing how it can unmask the faces of all these leaders... and they're ready to expose the next corrupt person on whom they can get their hands on.

Don't u think all these efforts will stir some babu's soul inside-out... Don't u think he would be think twice of being secretly video-taped by some media's camera....

Change does not happen in a day, yet constant struggle is needed to bring the change. I feel the beginning has already commenced, now all that requires is continuation of it, by spreading awareness.

[akila2187]

See everything has a beginning. Compare media's power now and what it was earlier. You will notice a drastic change.

Ever heard of sting operations before.... It is because now media is showing how it can unmask the faces of all these leaders... and they're ready to expose the next corrupt person on whom they can get their hands on.

Don't u think all these efforts will stir some babu's soul inside-out... Don't u think he would be think twice of being secretly video-taped by some media's camera....

Change does not happen in a day, yet constant struggle is needed to bring the change. I feel the beginning has already commenced, now all that requires is continuation of it, by spreading awareness.

too good gaurav too good...


agreed bt it is a fast spreading diseases ...and has to hv a very good planing.. and a very storng and educated fortce to eradicate it.....AND TATS WE YOUTH
we can create a evolution in this system by coming together.....

[arora]

no corruption should not be legalised... though it is quite near from being legal... bcoz der r very few or no things vich are done legally.....

[sheetal k]

than ppl wouldnt b asking for opinioins................they had rather b busy with something else

[amirapu_sow]

hmm...well if corruption is legalised every one for every job in this country sets a predetermined price tag, which is legalised corrupt money to be paid above the actual price, and no arguments and no negotiations would take place. If you want your work to be done one can see the corruption price prevailing...and based on that who ever bids the lowest corruption price wold do the work......thts nice than not knowning at all whether the price we are paying as a 'below the table' money is far too high to get the work done.

But here lies the actual story...those who are so much so used to the system would now say....legalised 'below the table' money thek hai....pur "MERAA money ka kitna dogey?".

So there is no end to the extent of corruption. Thus legalisation of it is not the answer.

[saurabhkhurana]

No corruption should not be legalised it would have irrational consequences....

[melroy88]

No corruption should not be legalised it would have irrational consequences....

Would you like to mention a few consequences?

[anshul14]

In my opinion, corruption should never be legalised because if once that is done, then the bribed money would become a part of the fees and again the whole vicious circle of under the table money would come up..Surely, some ways of minimising the corruption should be taken into account...

1. A timeline can be set by the Govt. for each and every work, every license to be issued. If a work is not done within a pre-defined time frame, an enquiry on the concerned officials should be set, and this enquiry should not be any "namesake" one, but in true sense.

2. The question is why people ask for "under the table" money ?
- they do so because they think that the amount given to them as their salary is not sufficient or upto the standards. So, first of all a competitive pay scale should be established . Eg is NTPC, which is consistently ranked by business magazines as one of the Best places to work.

Likewise, there can be other solutions also.

[yk_srk]

well...first of all i must apperciate that someone though about corruption here....i feel that corruption exist because of lack of proper legal system in the country...y do we offer a bribe if a sarkari babu is nt doing what he is supposed to do..y dnt we take the leagal route....so as to brought punishemnt to him.
since legal system in the country is nt perofimg, that is why we have the corruption and like practices being followed...now wat if we legalise corruption, i think this is being used in context of bribes, it is just a form of corruption.now if we legalise bribes, they become fees. and that defeats the very purpose, becuase bribe is something that we pay over and above what is required by law...if bribes are legalised that means there will be rates prescribed for various tasks, and that again leads us to the same situation becuase we already have the fees and all described by various laws applicable. so that is not a sloution on the other hand it will add to the floor rates as demanded now....

[maddyrules]

I wonder how a illegal thing be legalised.
So can I interpret the topic as Is Corruption legal?

[Meetushukla]

legalizing corruption ..... ya make "some" sense to me.

[ahmermbalbale]

great picture...but dont u think if goverment spends more time on stoping corruption from occouring will prove more fruitful than to think on leagalizing it...well gr8 imagination but something should always be done behind close doors:)

[melroy88]

In my opinion, corruption should never be legalised because if once that is done, then the bribed money would become a part of the fees and again the whole vicious circle of under the table money would come up..Surely, some ways of minimising the corruption should be taken into account...

1. A timeline can be set by the Govt. for each and every work, every license to be issued. If a work is not done within a pre-defined time frame, an enquiry on the concerned officials should be set, and this enquiry should not be any "namesake" one, but in true sense.

2. The question is why people ask for "under the table" money ?
- they do so because they think that the amount given to them as their salary is not sufficient or upto the standards. So, first of all a competitive pay scale should be established . Eg is NTPC, which is consistently ranked by business magazines as one of the Best places to work.
Likewise, there can be other solutions also.

The problem is that it is a human tendency to have more and more.When we were kids,we asked our parents eg. I want this...(toys) or whatever...I want that.....Our parents used to make us work hard and finally give it to us..After getting that particular thing we wanted even more.As we have all learned our demands goes on increasing..There is no stop to that. same way if we give the expected salary,after a year their demands will increase.I feel that corruption cannot be eradicated but minimised by the following ways you mentioned but the 2nd point,i do not agree.

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Regards,
Mel

[mayur_balani]

accordin to me if corruption is legalised, the same type of situation which is goin on 2day will come up. places for corruption will be set. people who accept bribes will be gives license. and corruption will be held like auction. more u bribe the better quality of work u will get. moreover rich will become richer and poor will become poorer.
so i personally think dat corruption shud never be legalised

[melroy88]

legalizing corruption ..... ya make "some" sense to me.

Well i didnt get ya,in other words "you dont make any sense :D"

[omkar.pednekar]

legalising corruption is not a option coz this would throw up questions such as legalising betting, etc.

[vandu1_2]

leaglising corruption would be something like now the product would not sold in grey market but in open market since now it would be having brand name (identification) attached to it.

[rit564]

hi
if corruption is legalised that act will itself be illegal. but than also if it is legalised i sure earth than everybody will be opting for govt jobs and course. but one thing is i am sure this place will be hell!!!

[priyanka.b]

i think its completely useless idea.it will ruin the whole country.there wont be any sincere work done and all what people will do is crave for money and not do any work..

[hemant.k008]

Good Topic to Discuss...
In my opinion its totaly nonsence and ridiculous to make it legal..Well if bribe should be legalised then every other bad activity should be legalised...Let the people extort the money from rich and distribute among the poor just like Robinhood...Let there b Capital Punishment for the criminals,Let the Robber give the excuse that since he is poor and cannot affor le robbed some one.. if today is question abt the bribe then slowly it will give rise to another problem....
i Still remember once my Professor tild me that "In our Economy, todays solution is tomorrows problem"..

[JEAN]

legalising corruption is impossible no such government wud do this and if it is legalised it will affect us and might hamper the nation's economy growth